Hi,

First, thanks for contacting this list but within this list we are not able
to provide in-depth comparisons or insights of any Apache project ( in your
case SOA suite) instead of that purpose of this list is to help with new
people to engage with right Apache communities and discuss community
matters. Please find my generic answers for your questions.

1.) Apache don't promotes idea of complete product suite such as SOA suite.
In fact, we have number of competitive products that can be used to build
SOA stack and already have number of commercials SOA  stacks which built
using Apache products. For example we have number of Web Services engines (
Axis . Axis2, CXF ) and number of ESBs ( Synapse, ServiceMix ) etc.  One
can integrate some of those components to make a SOA product stack.  In
here [1] you can find all the Apache projects with a brief introduction,
please go through this page and find any project that match with your basic
criteria. Once you identified those projects you can contact each of
project community through their user mailing list to get in depth technical
details of the project also you can read project documentation that covers
great details about the project. You can find mailing list details from
each project's web site for example for Tuscany SCA this is the page you
need to refer [2].

2.) In here or  any other Apache lists we only can comment on Apache
projects we can't provide any comment or recommendation about commercials
offerings. In fact, In Apache we don't know and we don't interest on what
commercials organization do with our products ( specially about their
technical aspects)  as far as their products compliance with Apache
trademark policy and not violating base Apache product's license. Usually
Apache don't provide any support on commercials offerings of our products
in contrast there are number of companies exists which focus to provide
commercials support / training for Apache products.

3.) You have mentioned two commercials organizations, If you ask same
questions on those two organizations definitely you will get better and
comprehensive answers in their perspective and I'm pretty much sure some of
them have dedicated page to explain their context with Apache.

[1] - http://projects.apache.org/indexes/quick.html
[2] - http://tuscany.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

Thanks !

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:18 AM, a user <myendpo...@live.it> wrote:

> Hello Apache community, I'm glad to make your acquaintance.
>
> My first question here is about a research I'm making these days: I must
> choose among open-source Software Oriented Architectures, and it seems to
> me the three complete platforms (they have all the pieces I need) are:
>
>  * /*Jboss SOATuscany SCA
>   Suite*/-->http://www.redhat.**com/products/**
> jbossenterprisemiddleware/soa/<http://www.redhat.com/products/jbossenterprisemiddleware/soa/>
>  * /*Apache*/(it's not a suite but you have all the fundamental pieces
>   - am I right?)
>  * /*WSO2 SOA 
> Suite*/-->http://wso2.com/**products/platforms<http://wso2.com/products/platforms>
>
> My conclusion on these platforms are that:
>
>  * /*JBoss*/is backed by a*big and active community*, and it is the
>   first I've heard of. The downside is that its*ESB cannot match
>   services' multiple endpoints*- in other words it matches only one
>   endpoint per service;
>  * /*Apache*/has a*great community*too, and has*Tuscany SCA (Service
>   Component 
> Architecture)*[http://tuscany.**apache.org/<http://tuscany.apache.org/>]
> - WSO2 and
>   JBoss do not have a SCA middleware (tell me if I'm wrong here);
>  * /*WSO2*/has a*complete suite*(it seems it has all SOA's middleware
>   pieces) except for the SCA. Here the downside is that*the community
>   is only of 350 members*- they declare that they've joined Apache
>   projects, and /*the question here is: can I count on your support
>   for WSO2 products?*/
>
> If my research brought me to incorrect conclusion, tell me where I've
> misunderstood something, and if you think it's incomplete and there are
> alternative that need to be taken into account it will be much useful to
> know which they are. I did not mention single pieces (like Bonita's BPM [
> http://www.bonitasoft.com/], for instance) because I think building up an
> SOA would be easier if I start with a suite and then I change some pieces.
>
> If you think it's not the correct approach, I'll be glad to take into
> consideration any alternative you're going to show me.
>
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ------------
>
> Here are the pieces I did not found on the platforms:
>
>  * /*Jboss*/: Business Activity Monitoring (BAM), Service Component
>   Architecture (SCA) WSO2: SCA;
>  * /*Apache*/: development tool (maybe Eclipse should be used),
>   Business Process Management (BPM), Business Rules, Registry - can
>   you tell me where I could find easily-integrable pieces?
>  * /*WSO2*/: SCA.
>
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ------------
>
> This question is a community-independent one. Here I would like to
> understand if:
>
> 1. I can create a reliable, complete, integrated SOA platform Apache
>   products, and
> 2. How WSO2 products are related to your community and Apache context.
>
> Thanks in advance to everyone,
> hoping I will be of some help one day in the future,
>
> /someone who's still learning/
>
>


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