On 4/1/2013 2:19 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>wrote:
On 1 Apr 2013 18:28, "Luciano Resende" <luckbr1...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com
wrote:
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Since then the IPMC has been discussing the idea of handing off the
documentation parts of their responsibilities to ComDev. This is just a
discussion item and is in no way a decision at this point.

The idea, as I understand it, is not to pass over any of the podling
oversight responsibilities, only the documentation of ASF policies,
processes and best practice.
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If the budget is not a pre-requisite, how do envision a small PMC like
ComDev, taking responsibility of a big task, that the current owner and a
much larger PMC has not been able to handle ?

Luciano has an excellent point in that there's not much to discuss until ComDev sees some clarity on what is being asked.

I do however think this could be an excellent idea, precisely in part because ComDev is smaller and more focused. I could imagine ComDev changing it's scope to effectively serve as an information shepherd on all of the apache.org/* content focused on our technical communities. I.e. not only serving as owners of community.a.o, where we have friendly overviews and pointers to other info, but also editorial owners of things like /dev. This doesn't mean setting policy for technical matters or svn instructions - this more would mean (I'm imagining) taking responsibility for making the technical information there more understandable and better organized.

The issue with the IPMC and the Incubator is multi-fold:

- Operations. Overseeing podlings and voting in new ones, graduating ones, etc. This is *not* anything to do with ComDev.

- Policy setting. This is the IPMC (or other relevant ASF officers) setting official minimum required policy for the incubation process. This is *not* anything to do with ComDev.

- Explaining to the world what the Incubation policies are and guiding newcomers through how IPMC Operations work. This one bit is something that ComDev *might* be able to help with, if I'm seeing what Ross is getting at.

Personally, I find the incubator site maddening in terms of explaining to a normal human what the heck to do. There's a chance that if ComDev wanted to help, people here could make significant improvements merely by better explaining the incubator - without having to make policy or podling decisions.

That in particular is something that could make use of a hired technical writer, if separately we thought that spending was warranted.

Make sense?

- Shane

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