+ it's also pretty hard to spin of small enough tasks which can be done in a 
GSoC project. Most of our projects need some really in-depth knowledge prior to 
hacking a smallish task :/

In this light, 33 is not that bad a number.

LieGrue,
strub




----- Original Message -----
> From: janI <j...@apache.org>
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: increasing GSoC visibility within the ASF
> 
> On Apr 10, 2013 7:27 PM, "Ulrich Stärk" <u...@spielviel.de> 
> wrote:
>> 
>>  Folks,
>> 
>>  I perceive a low interest of our projects in GSoC. The list of projects
> that submitted project ideas
>>  that I compiled for Sally contained 33 entries of which some are
> subprojects I believe. With 138
>>  PMCs plus 35 podlings, this is less than one fifth of our projects.
>> 
>>  We only had 34 ideas one week before our application was due.
>> 
>>  I run into committers that are not members of their projects PMCs who are
> eager to be mentors but
>>  have no clue about what's going on because nobody from the PMC 
> forwarded
> my emails to their dev lists.
>> 
>>  So the problem seems twofold: no interest and not reaching the right
> people. The latter could be
>>  improved by simply sending to committers@ instead of pmcs@ but it's the
> first that worries me.
>> 
>>  I believe GSoC and every other opportunity to attract new contributors to
> our projects should be a
>>  key priority of our PMCs. Apparently it's not, for whatever reasons. I
> could think of missing
>>  cycles, indifference, and wrong priorities.
>> 
>>  So what could we do to increase awareness for the opportunities GSoC
> offers and that this program is
>>  important to the foundation? Write more emails? Ask the board to mandate
> a section in board reports
>>  detailing the project's GSoC endeavors? Any ideas?
> 
> one suggestion would be to make an apache page,  that in short tell
> 1) what should a proposal contain
> 2) what is required with asf to be mentor (on a asf project)
> 3) a short part about asf and our cooperation with google
> 4) How to proceed.
> 
> I know you and others have e-mailed all that information, and quite a lot
> more. A page (which are referenced in the e-mail) would make it easy for
> someone like me, to get the information I need fast, and if I feel it, I
> can always find more details.
> 
> Thx for doing a great job, and yes there could have been more
> projects....but take it positively, we have some projects.
> 
> Rgds
> jan I.
> 
>> 
>>  Uli
> 

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