I'm not denying it - but I don't personally see the need for it. Issac
On 08/07/2014 19:45, Pierre Smits wrote: > Well, you can't deny that I did propose an amendment to the by-laws a > posting ago. :-) > > Regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* > Services & Solutions for Cloud- > Based Manufacturing, Professional > Services and Retail & Trade > http://www.orrtiz.com > > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Issac Goldstand <mar...@beamartyr.net> > wrote: > >> No, because contributors aren't proposing anything as far as the ASF is >> concerned. They're just having a discussion. >> >> Until it comes from a member, it's not a nomination or a proposal or >> anything other than a discussion. >> >> Issac >> >> On 08/07/2014 15:44, Pierre Smits wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> Taking into consideration that nominate and propose - in general and in >>> this context - mean the same and that any contributor can propose >>> potentials for ASF Membership, shouldn't the by-laws of the Foundation >>> reflect this? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Pierre Smits >>> >>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>> Services and Retail & Trade >>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, of course a community member can propose a member. As Rob says, the >>>> nomination and election has to be done by the Members, but not all >> projects >>>> have existing members acting as the eyes and ears. >>>> >>>> Of course, not having members in a project community shouldn't impact >> the >>>> project since it is self-managing and membership is only a foundational >>>> level thing. Nevertheless, the membership needs to be a good >> cross-section >>>> of our project communities. >>>> >>>> If a community member feels someone is being overlooked a mail to >>>> priv...@community.apache.org will reach people who can add notes to the >>>> member watch list. >>>> >>>> This is the right list for discussing what we look for in members. >>>> >>>> Sent from my phone - please forgive brevity and typos >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: "Rob Vesse" <rve...@dotnetrdf.org> >>>> Sent: 7/8/2014 10:42 >>>> To: "dev@community.apache.org" <dev@community.apache.org> >>>> Subject: Re: Proposing for Apache Member? >>>> >>>> Pierre >>>> >>>> Not unless one/more of those contributors is themselves a Member/Officer >>>> of the ASF - see Sectopn 4.1 of the Bylaws >>>> (http://apache.org/foundation/bylaws.html#4.1) which states the >> following: >>>> >>>> To be eligible for membership, a person or entity must be nominated by a >>>> current member of the corporation and must complete a written membership >>>> application in such form as shall be adopted by the Board of Directors >>>> from time to time >>>> >>>> >>>> Therefore contributors of a project can't directly, I guess they could >>>> talk to ASF members they know and suggest that person with the aim of >>>> getting a nomination but not being a member myself I'm not sure if that >>>> would be acceptable behaviour. Ultimately ASF is a meritocracy and my >>>> personal impression based on people who I know of who've become members >> in >>>> the past couple of years is that to become a member you need to be >> active >>>> across the foundation (not just within a small part of it) for a >> prolonged >>>> period. >>>> >>>> One thing worth asking is why the community you are involved in feels >> the >>>> need to have someone be elected as a Member? >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> On 08/07/2014 09:43, "Pierre Smits" <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Is it possible that contributors of a project can propose a community >>>>> member to be elected as an Apache Member? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Pierre Smits >>>>> >>>>> *ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>* >>>>> Services & Solutions for Cloud- >>>>> Based Manufacturing, Professional >>>>> Services and Retail & Trade >>>>> http://www.orrtiz.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
