On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> > > On 02/03/2015 04:11 AM, jan i wrote: > >> We should really make that clear to people, I strongly believe the general >> opinion is non-project talks are not welcome. I base this on the fact >> that >> a number of talks for Denver and Budapest was rejected for being too >> company like. >> >> When I started helping a year ago, I had ideas about having 2 tracks (or >> the talks scattered around) >> - User (including companies) experiences with ASF projects >> - Companies presenting solutions based on ASF projects >> >> I quickly learned that that was not the purpose of ApacheCON, I am very >> trilled if that is the way we want to go because that is a real way to get >> AC to grow again. >> > > For several years, we had a strong business track, where the implications > of The Apache Way to business (legal, marketing, planning, community, > whatever) were discussed. This just took someone to step up and make it > happen. > > If someone comes to me tomorrow with a business track, complete with > content, we'll schedule it. Sally used to handle this, and with her > contacts was able to provide really strong content. There was indeed > resistance to this, because it's "not about Apache projects", but that is > very open to interpretation, and, in the end, it strengthened the community > as a whole. Once we get ACNA scheduled I will talk with Sally and also come with ideas for early (before/during CFP) press releases for ACEU. I am very convinced that a business track, will sell more tickets and maybe also attract some new sponsors. rgds jan i > > But, we can't schedule talks that aren't submitted. > > > >> LF cannot market this message alone, they need clear public statements >> from >> us, that we want companies to come and present. I am convinced that if we >> (e.g. for ACEU) make early press releases about wanting companies to talk, >> tell it to LF, then we will be a lot more successful. >> > > +1 > > > >> If we just relax, and hope LF can lift that alone we will fail and keep >> telling each other how great projects we have ( which happens to be the >> truth, but maybe not the whole truth). >> > > Yep. If we keep talking to just ourselves, we'll ... keep talking to just > ourselves. > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen > http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon > -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.