I'm -1 on using "Apache Foo" in a job title. It great confusion between the paid role and the community role. The community role is not attached to a paid role. It is connected to the individual.
I see no reason why individuals can't also use ASF titles where appropriate. I see no problem with a product title that is associated with an Apache project in ways permitted by our trademark policy. I don't understand why you say "what about things like Apache Cloudstack" there is no product named "Cloudstack". So, for example, a title of "technical/community evangelist Product Foo" and a reference to "Committer Apache Bar" or similar is fine. Ross Sent from my Windows Phone ________________________________ From: Roman Shaposhnik<mailto:r...@apache.org> Sent: 3/8/2015 2:09 PM To: ComDev<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> Subject: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow? Hi! a recent thread with one of the PMCs pointed out an issue that I've long wanted to solicit feedback for: what is the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow? I have always thought that 'Technical/Community Evangelist, Apache FOO' would be appropriate, just like 'Software Engineer, Apache FOO' doesn't seem to be problematic. However it was pointed out, that when we're talking community as opposed engineering adding an Apache project name could be misleading and give an impression that the person somehow has a way to direct that community b/c of the job function. Question #1: what's the general consensus on 'Technical/Community Evangelist, Apache FOO' ? If we'd rather discourage its use, what are the alternatives? One that was suggested so far was to drop the 'Apache FOO'. This could work but seems unfair to the person who may be as bonafide a community evangelist as they come. Another idea was to use commercial product names where appropriate instead of Apache FOO. Thus instead of saying 'Technical/Community Evangelist, Apache FOO' it would say 'Technical/Community Evangelist, FOOPROD'. This could work for cases where project names != product names, but what about things like Apache CloudStack? Thanks, Roman.
