I'm almost tired of criticizing so much, but... I think a "code of conduct" is evil legalese and should be abandoned.
Like Jesus said: "Love is the only law you need." Cheers Stefan On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org > wrote: > Hi, > > Someone mentioned to me that they find the first paragraph of > http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html overly broad, > and I tend to agree. > > That paragraph says "this code of conduct governs how we behave in any > forum and whenever we will be judged by our actions" which implies > that it also applies outside of "ASF territory" - I don't think that's > appropriate. The next paragraph mentions "spaces managed by the Apache > Software Foundation" which I find much more appropriate, maybe > expanded with "and whenever we represent the ASF". > > The reasoning is that we can only speak about our own territory. > > As a simple example, putting your hand on someone's shoulder while > talking to them is totally welcome in some cultures while considered > "unwelcome sexual attention" (to reuse the words of that document) in > others. We might ask people to refrain from doing that in our > multi-cultural environment where we need to go down to some common > denominator of acceptable behavior, but we can't blame them for doing > that where it's culturally acceptable and even expected. The same goes > with profanity, where the acceptable level varies immensely between > cultures. > > So I think it's good to restrict our code of conduct to our own territory. > > I suggest reworking the first few paragraphs as follows, to clarify that: > > *** reworked code of conduct intro section *** > This code of conduct applies to all spaces managed by the Apache > Software Foundation, including IRC, all public and private mailing > lists, issue trackers, wikis, blogs, Twitter, and any other > communication channel used by our communities. A code of conduct which > is specific to in-person events (ie., conferences) is codified in the > published ASF anti-harassment policy. > > We expect this code of conduct to be honored by everyone who > participates in the Apache community formally or informally, or claims > any affiliation with the Foundation, in any Foundation-related > activities and especially when representing the ASF, in any role. > > This code is not exhaustive or complete....(unchanged from here on) > *** reworked code of conduct intro section *** > > What do people think? > -Bertrand >
