Actually the discussions were around what are the safe countries preferred for international gatherings and obviously football (or soccer as Americans call it) was used as an example. Safety and health are the biggest concerns.

I suspect Egypt could have been an option, I am not sure about today. Personally I am not informed enough to have an opinion.

Cheers,
Hadrian

On 10/16/2015 09:57 PM, Wyngaard, Jane R (398M-Affiliate) wrote:
Hey

Thanks!  Good to know - I hadn¹t heard about that discussion!

Hmm, ja it¹s actually probably actually cheaper for SA people to get to
Europe than Morocco but still definitely good for the continent and ASF
community at large.  I presume this was coming out of there being Moroccan
people in ASF? - If you¹re on this list lets talk! :)

I¹d support either, or even maybe Nigeria or Kenya.  I suppose Morocco has
the advantage of easy access for EU people but I suspect the Linux
Foundation would make more money hosting in SA - just a gut instinct,
could be wrong about that, but I think it would attract more local
attendees than elsewhere!

Others thoughts?

Jane

On 16/10/2015 15:11, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hzbar...@gmail.com> wrote:

I heard in the past year more interest in an African ApacheCon. However
the suggested venue was somewhere closer to Europe, like Morocco. I
suspect this is still too far away from the South African crowd, right?

Best,
Hadrian

On 10/16/2015 06:03 PM, Wyngaard, Jane R (398M-Affiliate) wrote:
Hi All,

I attended Apache Con Europe (big data and core) two weeks ago and a
couple of us were floating the idea of getting an ApacheCon Africa to
happen.  We were talking South Africa specifically given our origins but
in general the continent¹s awake to tech and open source and S. Africa¹s
just one part.

The essence of our discussions distilled down to  - make a monetary
business case for it and it could happen - so I just wanted to stick
this out there so the idea could maybe start to evolveŠ

Reasons for it to happen:
   - There are a bunch of apache committers in S. Africa but honestly
it¹s super expensive for us to get to any ApacheCon elsewhere (flip side
- it¹s cheap to come to us)
   - It¹s a stunning venue!
   - S. Africa¹s the gateway to Africa in so much as importing tech is
concerned (Nigeria and others aren¹t waiting for the world but are just
inventing their own<http://fossfa.net/> (Free software and open source
foundation for Africa) :)
   - There are big tech projects happening and more coming: i.e things
to get involved in / things to expose to ASF
Eg: The Square Kilometer Array telescope
<http://www.ska.ac.za/meerkat/>  or HPC
community<http://www.chpcconf.co.za/> , or Space
science<http://www.sansa.org.za/earthobservation/services> and
engineering community or energy community or business


   - And just for kicks ­ apparently we know how to use water powered
rockets best (yesterday¹s
slashdot<http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/10/08/1639243/university-of-ca
pe-town-team-breaks-world-water-rocketry-record>)

Honestly, I¹m sure others know more and better reasons than me too.
Obviously we're biased ­ it would benefit the S. Africa software
community more than anything else  - but also think it¹d be a win for
ASF community!


Jane

Other links:
OpenSource software and small businesses conference
2016<http://www.waset.org/conference/2016/01/johannesburg/ICOSSSB>

Banking<http://www.bdlive.co.za/business/financial/2015/07/16/nedbank-rol
ls-out-sas-first-big-data-service>
openOffice supporting African
Languages<http://www.balancingact-africa.com/news/en/issue-no-282/computi
ng/open-office-now-avai/en>


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Jane Wyngaard, Ph.D
Postdoctoral scholar
Instrument software and science data systems Section (398)

NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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