On 02/07/2016 05:13 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > I like! Yay! Glad to hear this :)
> > One suggestion that does not add complexity, but just a little bit of > text. Try to quantify the Difficulty levels. Is "Journeyman" harder or > easier than "Intermediate"? Similarly, how do "Advanced" and "Expert" > compare? I suggest fewer Difficulty options, with a one sentence > explanation of each. I picked 5 because 3 sounded like too few (too big a jump between them?). There is an icon next to the difficulty level that shows which 'level' it is, from green (easy) to red (very hard). Maybe I need to make that more visible?. An explanation sounds like a great idea, and we can add that as a tooltip in the widget overview and as a line of text in the actual task details. I can get started on that right away, whereas changing to use 3 levels might take some getting used to for me (and a bit of work to rework the existing system down to 3 levels instead of 5). Or hm, what about a small (?) next to the level which shows you what we expect this level to signify.? With regards, Daniel. > > Here is a quick suggestion for a three level system: > > Beginner: Can do very simple tasks in the language. > > Intermediate: Can write complete programs using the main features. > > Expert: Knows most, if not all, features of the language and can apply > them to solve difficult problems. > > It does not really matter that much what the levels are, as long as > everyone using Help Wanted has the same understanding. > > On 2/7/2016 8:01 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: >> Hi ComDev folks! Ramblings incoming :) >> >> As an aside to the 'Guiding volunteers' thread, I was talking with Rich >> (Bowen) while he was at DevConf this weekend, and we got to thinking >> whether it was possible to make a tiny tool that would solve one >> specific issue we often come across when someone says "I know X, Y and Z >> - What can I do to help Apache?". >> >> Traditionally, we've said "subscribe to our mailing list (which one?!)" >> or "Go look at JIRA/BugZilla", which in itself is fine, but off-putting >> to many people as we don't actively use neither MLs or bug trackers to >> advertise what we want done, and what tech/person skills would be >> helpful where (we're terrible!). Furthermore, it is our >> opinion/assessment that bug trackers are not that great from a "skills >> -> tasks" perspective. While great for bugs and larger tasks for an >> existing audience, they don't provide the right overview or search >> features that one could want, and keeping some sort of uniform setup for >> these tasks across the ASF is going to be a LOT of work. >> >> ...If only we had somewhere someone could just go and say "I'm great at >> marketing and documentation, what tasks are there that I can do?" and >> then get 10 different requests across 6 projects, some that you could >> start on right away and some that require more intimate knowledge with >> the project. >> >> ...Or the experienced C/Python programmer that wants to know which tasks >> at Apache they could hack on as a good introduction to that project, >> while at the same time helping the project accomplish something new. >> >> ...Oh, and wouldn't it be nifty if we could have a widget we could place >> on our web site that lists what we as a project or foundation are >> looking for right now in terms of work to be done, so when people visit >> our page, they can see that "hey, we're looking for a web dev guru - is >> that you?" ? >> >> Enter 'Help Wanted!'. It's a very small (and very much work-in-progress) >> tool that you can use to browse the tasks that all the Apache projects >> would like to get done, see the difficulty of it, language (whether >> spoken/written or programming) skills needed, what it's about and >> who/how to contact. You can also use the HW widget to plug your own >> project's requests into your web site, or you can display all the >> current tasks waiting in the system across the ASF. 350+ initiatives, >> 170+ TLPs, one uniform hub for requests that can help people get started >> with Apache. >> >> The code is "live" at: https://helpwanted.apache.org/ >> A test widget is here: https://helpwanted.apache.org/wtest.html >> (the test widget shows what it could look like on the httpd site) >> >> It's open for all committers to go set up new tasks (universal commit >> bit, so to speak, just click on 'edit tasks'), and we hope it will be a >> hub for putting people on the right path - whether that be a pointer to >> JIRA, ML etc - to contributing to our projects. Or it'll crash and burn >> and we'll never speak of it again :) >> >> Contributions, feedback, quality control etc are MOST WELCOME, and we're >> only getting started with the proof-of-concept right now (as found in >> svn). Hopefully we'll have something stable and polished by the end of >> February? :) >> >> With regards, >> Daniel. >> >> >> PS: Yes, I know the admin area is a stylistic nightmare. That'll be >> fixed...eventually! And the task guide needs a LOT of work. Saying >> "contact the dev list" isn't enough, but I'll need a word smith for >> that :) >>
