lql 24 sie 2016 09:10 "Ross Gardler" <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> napisał(a):
> I supervised a capstone project last year. The overhead was significant > but, theoretically, the reward was good. The problem was that, in my case, > the students did not provide patches as part of their work. Instead we got > a monster patch which is still sitting in JIRA waiting for me to find the > time to review it. > > This is not necessarily the students fault. I could have been more > forceful, or I could have been more hands-on and helped them get set up. > But the lesson learned is that putting an hour a week into these projects > is not enough. > > That being said, if I had 3 hours a week to put into this I would > certainly do it again. > > Ross > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: shath...@e-z.net [mailto:shath...@e-z.net] > > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 11:35 PM > > To: dev@community.apache.org > > Subject: [Fwd: Time to propose a CS Capstone Project!] > > > > I have participated in Oregon State University (Corvallis, Oregon USA) > > undergraduate senior projects in the past. The Capstone program is an > > opportunity for our open source software communities to propose a three- > > term project for students and provide mentors to the projects. The > mentors > > get to interact with students and their evaluation becomes a part of > their > > performance evaluation grade. > > > > These Capstone university projects can readily support the Apache > Software > > Foundation health. > > > > I live and work within commute distance of the university. One of the > > previous projects had a mentor in Denmark. International cooperation > can be > > accommodated. > > > > Sincerely, > > Steven J. Hathaway > > shathaway@a.o > > > > ---------------------------- Original Message > ---------------------------- > > Subject: Time to propose a CS Capstone Project! > > From: "D. Kevin McGrath" <dmcgr...@eecs.oregonstate.edu> > > Date: Mon, August 22, 2016 12:30 pm > > To: shath...@e-z.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------- > > > > > > Colleagues -- > > > > Have you always wanted a particular software tool developed for your use, > > but have never had the time to do it yourself? Well then, read on. Have > I got > > a deal for you! > > > > My name is Kevin McGrath. I am the instructor who runs the OSU Computer > > Science Senior Capstone class. The Capstone class is a 3-quarter (Fall, > Winter, > > Spring) > > "career preparation" experience. The major piece of this is doing a > significant > > 3 member team project. > > > > When the students come to the first class on September 24, I want to > present > > them with a list of exciting, creative, and real-experience software > > engineering project possibilities. This is where you come in. I am > looking for > > you to use your needs and experience to propose those project > possibilities. > > > > A web site has been setup to give you more information, and let you enter > > and edit your project proposals: > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fe > > ecs.oregonstate.edu%2fcapstone%2fsubmission%2f&data=01%7c01%7cRoss. > > Gardler%40microsoft.com%7c69dffb91914e465f88b908d3cb068ca9%7c72f98 > > 8bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=Y5%2f34BYPOXEwKHTC0sm4jNG > > QVxTqoxU7RGLoJBj02S0%3d > > > > You have until September 15 to get yours in. If any clarification would > be > > necessary, you'd have from the 15th to the first day of term to clarify. > > That is > > when the students will see them, and will start the selection process. > In that > > process, I ask the students to "bid" on their top 5 choices. I > ultimately make > > the final project assignments, but endeavour to take their preferences > into > > account. I find I get better results that way. > > > > There will likely be more projects proposed than students teams to do > them. > > *So, really sell your project.* Definitely don't understate its > cool-ness factor! > > The more excited you sound in the description, the more excited they are > > likely to be when doing it. Excitement is contagious! If you'd be > interested in > > pitching your project to the students in person, please let me know! > > Personally pitched projects tend to generate more excitement from the > > students. > > > > After projects have been selected, we will follow a client-contractor > model in > > which I "run" the software contract company and you are one of our valued > > clients. The students "report" to me, but you, as client, work directly > with > > them to design the requirements, set the timeline, approve the progress. > You > > also get to help assign grades. > > > > This year I'm asking you to explicitly distinguish the projects that are > research > > oriented vs. those that are more software engineering focused. If you > would > > like to propose a research project for the students, please indicate > this using > > the Additional Comments field. > > > > Given the nature of a research oriented project, I find that better > results are > > had if the students are initially aware of the type of project. If you > are unsure, > > that is not a problem. I'm happy to work with you on the details of your > > project -- just submit it, and then we can chat about any changes that > might > > be necessary. > > > > Any project can be proposed from anybody. I don't care where you are > from, > > just that your project represents an excellent software engineering > > experience for the students. > > > > Do remember, however, that these are seniors. They have taken the core > > classes so far, but most have not taken some of the electives that would > really > > help in some projects, such as graphics, AI, computer vision, etc. Keep > that in > > mind when proposing. > > > > Several additional points to keep in mind: > > > > 1) We ask for about 1 hour per week to interact with the > students > > > > 2) If you propose a project that will be handed off to another > > engineer/developer to mentor, please list their name as well > > as an additional contact. > > > > 3) Any IP restrictions need to be listed. These can include > NDAs, > > assignment of IP, etc. University policy is that students > own the IP > > of their projects, so if you have something else in mind, > be very > > clear from the proposal. Negotiations/agreements will be > between > > you > > and the students, rather than you and the university. > > > > 4) The general scope of the project is what you would give one > 6-month > > intern. > > > > If you have questions or want to discuss project possibilities, feel > free to > > contact me at: > > > > D. Kevin McGrath > > Instructor, Computer Science > > Oregon State University > > 2109 Kelley Engineering Center > > 541-737-1420 > > dmcgr...@eecs.oregonstate.edu > > > > Thanks for your time -- I look forward to working with you! > > > > -- Kevin McGrath > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
