I am pretty new around here and don't know if this is a more private room for ASF members .. but my .02: of it is in red and black, then something needs to be said.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> Date: 01/31/2017 3:50 PM (GMT-08:00) To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Profile photos and ASF values Yeah... I twitched when I saw that. My suspicion is that this is being used in the ancient, pre-nazi sense. It is hard to believe that somebody is ignorant of the impact it must have on some readers. On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Christopher <ctubb...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > It is surprising to me that a certain individual participant in ASF forums > seems to be using a swastika as their Google profile photo. The impact of > this is that ASF users which use GMail to interact with the mailing lists, > are presented with this swastika whenever reading or interacting with ASF > forums using GMail. > > To be clear, this symbol can have alternate meanings, and it may not be > intentionally being used as Nazi symbol. Additionally, even if this > individual holds to certain ideologies which may be antithetical to ASF > community inclusive values, they may act entirely professional and in > accordance with ASF code of conduct on Apache forums. So, I don't want to > imply that the profile photo is indicative of their ASF interactions... it > may be an entirely separate thing. > > My main inquiry here is to question whether or not there is a concern, > because the use of such profile photos may actually have consequences of > deterring potential new committers, because Apache may be indicted by > association. > > Is there something we wish to do about this? Is it a non-issue? I really > don't know. All I know, is my gut tells me that I'm bothered when I see it > (I use GMail). But, I don't want to overreact, or start a witch hunt. I'm > genuinely curious if this is something we want to address at all. > > If the profile photo is used on ASF infrastructure (JIRA, affiliated as a > member of the Apache org on GitHub, etc.), then I think we probably do want > to address it in the Code of Conduct. However, unrelated services like > Google profile photos... that may not be something we want to address, > because the web mail client users use is not related to ASF services (even > if it were know for user that it impacted ASF community by deterring > potential new community members). > > In any case, I don't raise this issue to demean the individual whose > profile photo came to my attention... this is not an attack on them. Again, > this is not a witch hunt. > -- > Christopher >
