Hi Shane,
Thanks for your advise. Approach projects directly is what we are
currently doing even if it's quite hard sometimes. Someone tell us to
send an email to this list because of the GSoC
(http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html) and ICFOSS
(http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html) which
are similar in their goals. I'm glad we did, even if the ASF "tends to
limit which programs we *officially* support", inform of the project
seems to be a good idea.
As soon as we select the students (just two this year, it's a PoC yet),
we'll contact a couple of projects of the committers who shown interest
here (Rafa, Carlos, Hadrian and Antonio David). Thanks for your support!
Best regards,
Antón
On 30/09/17 18:43, Shane Curcuru wrote:
Carlos Sanchez wrote on 9/27/17 10:29 AM:
Excelent idea! Let me know as I'm based in Coruña.
Just FYI it is probably better/easier to pick some projects you are
interested in and reach them directly as they are quite independent.
This is a great point in general, not just for this question. The ASF
is made up of over 180+ separate, independent project communities. Each
community works in their own spaces, and since Apache committers are
volunteers, there often isn't as much coordination between projects as
you might think.
Community Development (ComDev) - an Apache project itself - is here to
help *try* to point people in the right directions to get more help.
But again, ComDev is made up of volunteers, and isn't always familiar
with all the different Apache projects.
So the best approach for newcomers is to *write a good question*, and
then start here on dev@community. But plan to do your own research, and
start figuring out which other Apache projects *you* have some interest
in. It's hard to break into an opensource project if you don't have a
personal or technical interest in the code itself.
There's got to be a better way for ComDev to have some default email
replies and FAQ entries about "welcome! I see you're interested in X -
here's a few starting points to consider". It's easy to say "you need
to do your own research to find specific projects", but providing a
little more pre-published guide for newcomers showing them how to
step-by-step consider different projects would be cool to have.
Reminder: all Apache committers are welcome to help improve the
community.apache.org website itself. 8-)
https://community.apache.org/newbiefaq.html#websitecms
Separately it's important to remember that while the ASF as an
organization tends to limit which programs we *officially* support,
there are a lot of Apache committers who are willing to help out and
organize, if you can catch their interest. Just because the ASF doesn't
have a formal program for something doesn't mean that individuals can't
organize it themselves.
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017, 15:28 Antón R. Yuste <an...@galiglobal.com> wrote:
Hi Rafa,
Thanks! You are more than welcome. I will ping you as soon as we start
the program to discuss the details and see next steps.
More feedback from other projects or the ASF would be also welcomed.
Best regards,
Antón
On 21/09/17 16:13, Rafa Haro wrote:
Hi Antón,
Excellent initiative! I would be more than happy to mentoring the
students
or helping on any way.
Cheers,
Rafa
El El jue, 21 sept 2017 a las 16:07, Antón R. Yuste <
an...@galiglobal.com>
escribió:
Hi all,
We (the VigoJUG) are running a collaboration program (pro bono work)
with the University of Vigo (Spain) to introduce students to Open Source
projects as part of the end of their studies. It's the equivalent to two
full signatures. The idea is to do a proof of concept with two students
this year and open it to more of them in the following courses if it's a
success.
We would like to choose some of the ASF projects and we know the ASF has
been involved in a few student programs, mostly Google
Summer of Code but also a few others directly with universities. So we
would like to know more about it if it makes sense in our case.
In our opinion the program is a win-win for everyone:
* Students from UVigo: evangelize open-source and get real
experience.
* Senior Engineers from VigoJUG: get familiar with interesting
projects + help new engineers in our area.
* Teachers from UVigo: they have interest in many projects of the ASF
but they are a bit lost, this is a great opportunity for them to
know more and look for new opportunities of collaboration.
* ASF: some fresh blood to some projects :-)
We would need from the ASF:
* Some projects to work with. Issues related to automate performance
tests or profiling would be great because they have little impact
in
the project and we have some experience on that and running some
workshops on that.
* Some initial mentorship. It should be little work, most of the
mentoring should be done by the senior engineers of the VigoJUG but
some initial guidance would be very helpful.
I'm not familiar with this list (yet) so I hope this email is fine here
:-)
Best regards,
Antón
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