On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 5:18 AM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To me, subject tags are a partial (slightly annoying) solution to the > problem. If there’s no better solution, then I suppose it could make things > better, but it would likely require a lot of retraining of folks. I wonder > how realistic that is. > > > ...while preserving the ubiquity of email which is *very* important in > the > > Apache model, IMO. > Yes. Email is fine. > > To be clear, I was not suggesting removing support for email clients. I > was rather suggesting *additional* tools which could be used to improve the > experience. > Unless these tools could somehow "merge" with the email experience, I am not in favor of this. I do agree that the amount of email can be very overwhelming at times, but we have archive tools AND the Pony mail at lists.apache.org is a good way to NOT directly subscribe while still being able to respond as you want and are able. > > On Oct 20, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> ...I’m wondering if it makes sense to take a step back and rethink > email and communication. > >> This feels like part of a bigger challenge... > > > > One of my favorite ways to make sense of busy mailing lists is to > > require subject line [tags] for everything. > > > > Rich Bowen recently pointed me to OpenStack dev list which does > > exactly that, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017- > June/thread.html > > > > This paves the way for improved mail clients or plugins which can make > > good use of that, without requiring complicated new tools and while > > preserving the ubiquity of email which is *very* important in the > > Apache model, IMO. > > > > One thing that remains is the need for people to quote in a sane way, > > spending a big more energy on their side to save the energy of lots of > > people reading the result. I understand some email clients are > > terrible at that but I'm not sure if it's a valid excuse for our > > frequent top-quoted messes. > > > > -Bertrand > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "Only the truth will save you now." -- Ensei Tankado, "Digital Fortress"