I made a bunch of perturbations and undid them and eventually the links are
working as-is... So anyhow this is good to review or publish if you are
happy with it.

Kenn

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 1:35 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback! I've revised to take it into account. I'll try to
> reply inline to indicate how.
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 1:02 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:35 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:51 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
>> bdelacre...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >... Feel free to draft your blog post and we can then review and
>> publish!
>> > I've drafted it....
>>
>> Thank you, I reviewed [1] and it looks great to me!
>>
>> I have just 3 minor comments:
>>
>> -Add a link to the committer guidelines that you mention
>>
>
> The first sentence of the paragraph on that was a link. Something about my
> source is making most links not render. I got this one working, but many
> others are not. I'll figure that out...
>
>
>> -IIUC when you say "Every ~month" it means "about every month" - that
>> was not obvious to me initially
>>
>
> Changed to "about every month"
>
>
>> -for RTC and CTR you might link to
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html
>
>
> Done (but link is not yet working per above)
>
>
>>
>> -Bertrand
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 5:11 PM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I realize that this message might be hard to read since copy/paste
>> formatting is gone. So here goes my attempt to clarify...
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kenn,
>>
>> Thanks for contributing this. I think it's a nice introduction to Beam's
>> community building efforts.
>>
>> Here are a couple of comments:
>>
>> > We want our contributor-base (hence committer-base) to be more spread
>> across companies and backgrounds, for the usual Apache reasons.
>>
>> I'd elaborate instead of saying "for the usual Apache reasons". Which
>> reasons are important to Beam?
>>
>
> Done.
>
>
>> > (we have committers from community development, tech writing, training,
>> etc).
>>
>> I'd make this a sentence of its own.
>>
>
> Agree. Done.
>
>
>
>> > you shouldn't be proposing a committer for other reasons,
>>
>> I don't understand "for other reasons".
>>
>> > Every ~month, we call for new discussions and revisit ~all prior
>> discussions.
>>
>> I find the "~" to be distracting. Words please.
>>
>
> Done.
>
> > For a potential committer, we did this:
>>
>> It's not clear to me when a person becomes a potential committer. Is it
>> in the "repeat contributor" phase?
>>
>> > For an early contributor,
>>
>> Perhaps move this paragraph above the "For a potential committer"
>> paragraph?
>>
>
> Done. I think re-ordering and slight rephrase helped.
>
> > ~3~4 obvious committer candidates
>
>
>> As above, remove "~".
>>
>
> Done. "a few"
>
> > If we have no feedback about which guidelines were a concern, that is a
>> red flag that we are being driven by bias.
>>
>> I don't understand this. Lack of concern might be considered a "good
>> thing" not a red flag.
>>
>
> Rephrased: "Formulating this feedback is important for helping
> contributors to learn, but it also serves as a check against bias and
> politics. If we found ourselves unable to specify such feedback, that is a
> sign that we are deciding for a reason other than those we have declared
> and agreed upon."
>
> > as RMS says
>>
>> Who/what <https://teams.googleplex.com/u/what> is RMS?
>>
>
> Rephrased and spelled out his name.
>
> I'll keep trying to figure out what is going on with the links, and if you
> know the answer please share it!
>
> Kenn
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Craig
>> >> On Jan 4, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org <mailto:
>> k...@apache.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Here it is:
>> >>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/comdev/?previewEntry=an-approach-to-community-building
>> <
>> https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/comdev/?previewEntry=an-approach-to-community-building
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Kenn
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 1:44 PM Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com.invalid
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Where could we find it?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 13:35, Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 8:51 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
>> >>>> bdelacre...@apache.org>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Feel free to draft your blog post and we can then review and
>> publish!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I've drafted it. It is pretty long but still feels terse to me.
>> Feedback
>> >>>> very welcome on that point. I will try to find time to give it
>> another
>> >>>> pass, unless someone tells me that it is fine as-is.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Kenn
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Bertrand
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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