I'm a +1 for this, and I'd like to help out as well.

Best,
Myrle

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 5:29 PM Griselda Cuevas <g...@google.com.invalid>
wrote:

> Yes! This is exciting. I'd like to be part of the mailing list, and I agree
> that when there's a product encoded in the efforts. the cadence become
> stronger.
>
> Here's my proposed list of deliverables by work stream:
>
> *Diagnostic*
> 1) Revamp the 2016 contributor survey
> 2) Launch 2019 Survey (I can do this)
> 3) Analyze results and identify actionable next steps (based in pain
> points, strengths, opportunity areas, etc.)
> 4) Share results & recommendations w/ community
>
> *Working towards improvement*
> *I can own this work stream and I need more volunteers, I commit to give
> monthly reports. D&I in OSS is part of my day-to-day job, so that's a
> guarantee I'll deliver on it. I also love the topic so I can also dedicate
> personal time to this effort. *
> 1) Curate a list of experts in D&I
> 2) Evaluate possible vendors and select the best fit
> 3) Outline statement of work (define project req.)
> 4) Hire vendor (Due diligence by the ASF)
> 5) Kick-off consulting work, focused on findings from survey.
>
> *Embedding D&I at the ASF*
> *I want to be part of this. *
> 1) Define purpose, values and objectives for a D&I council
> 2) Define what structure makes more sense
> 3) Work on formalizing the council
> 4) Make the survey the measurement for council's impact YoY
>
> If you like it, I'm happy to create a Jira board to track efforts.
>
>
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 at 09:08, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:37 AM Griselda Cuevas
> > <g...@google.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > Another thing we should consider is creating a D&I council, PMC,
> working
> > > group (or something alike) for the ASF, and I'd love to be part of it.
> > >
> > > Now, I have to share my feelings with discussions on this list.
> > Sometimes I
> > > struggle to understand when a conversation is ready for action. I feel
> > like
> > > I've seen so many great ideas, and I don't have visibility into when
> they
> > > start to happen or when I should start working on things. This time I'm
> > > offering to lead... so how could I do it?
> >
> > TL;DR: identify a list of tangible deliverables, and I'll help you
> > make it happen.
> >
> > Longer answer:
> >
> > Organizationally, this could be one of the things that is done under
> > the comdev umbrella, it could be something that reports to the
> > president, or it could be something that reports to the board.
> >
> > The third option requires a board resolution.  The middle option is
> > less clear, but in such cases we err on the side of clarity so a board
> > resolution would be prepared.  No board interaction is required for
> > the first option, though a notification in the next board report would
> > be in order.
> >
> > Operationally, this would start pretty much the way everything starts
> > at the ASF: with the creation of a mailing list.  What this will be is
> > a quieter place where people who actually want to do the work get
> > together and make it happen.  I will caution you that often times,
> > those people don't show up, and this ultimately means that it becomes
> > a place to ideas go to die.  And I will say that similar efforts have
> > died this way in the past.
> >
> > Part of what makes PMCs work is that they have a tangle product (code)
> > and deliverables (releases).  This helps keep things focused.
> >
> > Outside of the Code of Conduct, focus is not a word I would use to
> > characterize most of the discussions to date on diversity.  We need to
> > fix that.
> >
> > So... if we (and by that I'm specifically looking for volunteers) can
> > identify tangible work products and there is a commitment to provide
> > written monthly status reports detailing progress towards the
> > production of those work products, I am prepared to support the
> > creation of an officer and committee responsible.  I don't believe
> > that this committee needs board authority (at least not yet), and Ross
> > and I both clearly are interested in making this work.  This leads me
> > to recommend a path of the creation of a President's committee.
> >
> > Circling back, board resolutions are generally evaluated monthly (out
> > of band is possible, but there is no reason here to force the issue).
> > The schedule is here:
> >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/calendar.txt
> >
> > While shooting for April is definitely possible, I would recommend
> > shooting for May.  And the setting up of a mailing list doesn't need
> > to wait for the board resolution - if there is sufficient progress, I
> > can ask the infrastructure team to make it happen.
> >
> > - Sam Ruby
> >
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