Just a FYI that we mention the what here:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/#other
but we don't go into a lot of detail regarding the why :)
> On Jun 20, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>
> Ross, could you relay this to ComDev? It seems that putting some version of
> your writeup under the community pages would be useful, since this is moving
> from outside of D&I's area and more of a community and policy issue, in
> general. In order to make this easier, I've cc'ed dev@community on this.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On 2019/06/20 07:41:48, Ross Gardler <r...@microsoft.com.INVALID> wrote:
>> "The mission of the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) is to provide software
>> for the public good. We do this by providing services and support for many
>> like-minded software project communities consisting of individuals who
>> choose to participate in ASF activities.">
>>
>> We pay for operational activities in order to provide "services and support
>> for many like-minded software project communities".>
>>
>> We don't pay for software development in our projects because our "software
>> project communities consist of individuals who choose to participate in ASF
>> activities." Paying people to produce the software is not creating
>> communities of people who choose, but rather (in part) people paid by us to
>> be present. This can result in the ASF deciding which projects win, rather
>> than the market doing so (as happens when external companies pay for
>> development) . By putting ourselves in a position of influence we can no
>> longer be independent of market forces and thus it becomes very hard to be
>> vendor neutral. A lack of vendor neutrality makes it difficult to "provide
>> software for the public good".>
>>
>> Of course an argument can be made that paying for software development to
>> make our operations more efficient is acceptable. I believe it is. We
>> already do it since infra staff write software for us, regularly. Others are
>> concerned about this being a slippery slope to paying for software more
>> generally.>
>>
>> Ross>
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>>
>>
>> ________________________________>
>> From: Awasum Yannick <aw...@apache.org>>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:21:01 AM>
>> To: d...@diversity.apache.org>
>> Subject: Why does the ASF not pay for development?>
>>
>> Hi all,>
>>
>> Why does the foundation not pay for development?>
>>
>> Why do they pay for operations?>
>>
>> Why do they pay for accounting?>
>>
>> What argument lead to this core principles?>
>>
>> I want to understand as am new to the Apache way.>
>>
>> I know it might be taking us back or might even be the wrong list. Just>
>> help me understand.>
>>
>> Thanks.>
>> Awasum>
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