+1 ASF is a flat organization - by design. This proposal adds a level of hierarchy without justifying the need for it.
If people are unable to conduct the business of this proposed structure within ComDev and/or VP Conferences then fix that, don't work around it. So, as Ted asks "Why is all this organizational hierarchy needed?" Ross ________________________________________ From: Ted Dunning <tdunn...@apache.org> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 6:38 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Local Community (ALC) Next Steps This ALC stuff looks like a way to have local meetups. Why is all this organizational hierarchy needed? Why not just have meetups? On 2019/08/01 13:29:41, Swapnil M Mane <swapnilmm...@apache.org> wrote: > Dear all, > > Hope you are doing good. > Thanks, everyone who shared their kind thoughts on ALC proposal [1]. > > As a next step, we have documented various information, which will help us > in bringing ALC in action. > > # 1. ALC home page > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FCOMDEV%2FApache%2BLocal%2BCommunity%2B-%2BALC&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061433531&sdata=yXuLVZhp%2F%2Fieoq%2FUww1ImL9yBz2%2Fur6%2BJePP9FI7CLg%3D&reserved=0 > > > This is the root wiki document for ALC and contains the following > information > -- About ALC > -- ALC Roles and Responsibility > -- How ALC Chapter will be formed > -- Benefits of ALC > -- Code of conduct > -- Addition information > -- Contact ALC > > # 2. ALC Resources > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FCOMDEV%2FALC%2BResources&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061433531&sdata=f8wsjmAxOvPURcR9%2B7dlcnbxKIkx9fFy%2BGpU%2BPzbEc4%3D&reserved=0 > > This document is used for collecting the information and resources > (presentations, media, etc.) that will be helpful for ALC chapters. > Currently, contain the following information > -- Types of events organized by ALC Chapters > -- Venue for the event > -- Topics for the session > > # 3. ALC Chapters > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FCOMDEV%2FALC%2BChapters&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061443539&sdata=ZxM8gqhpEU3V%2FGxZvFnsphJI5TvFrn2oAIb2O3Wj8nM%3D&reserved=0 > > This wiki contains all the ALC Chapters detail. > > ## 3.1 ALC Indore > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FCOMDEV%2FALC%2BIndore&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061443539&sdata=kUlZcS7BLOV%2FUUtemIT3DWdHeJrhXB0VigAzhFRG9Co%3D&reserved=0 > > Each ALC Chapter will have its own wiki, which will contain details > specific to that ALC Chapter. Since I am with Pranay Pandey starting the > ALC Indore Chapter, thus created a wiki page for ALC Indore. > Other chapters will also create their own wiki page. > > ### 3.1.1 ALC Indore Events > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FCOMDEV%2FALC%2BIndore%2BEvents&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061443539&sdata=eUJU%2BzGYHeEm%2Bp2k6%2Fomc2rKZ8JIUsSK0BgxP4xQY%2Bo%3D&reserved=0 > > This document contains information about upcoming and past events organized > by ALC Indore Chapter. > > ### 3.1.2 ALC Indore Reports > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FCOMDEV%2FALC%2BIndore%2BReports&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061443539&sdata=rcnZlOOmSb4iDniQ0CeqcF94czggtw%2BcxKRsgVrZm%2BI%3D&reserved=0 > > The ALC Chapter shares the status report to the ALC Management Committee in > every two months. This wiki contains these reports. The report includes > details on the activities performed by the ALC Chapter and its impact. > > # 4 Reports > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FCOMDEV%2FReports&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061443539&sdata=yBMLzbVaCKpCujIdcpMUOhq3CyJVxiScMG8lu10ytjw%3D&reserved=0 > > This wiki contains the details of all the report shared to ALC Management > Committee by ALC Chapters. > > # 5 Organizational Hierarchy > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FCOMDEV%2FOrganizational%2BHierarchy&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061443539&sdata=4EPu7ePgrcrG1AdCv1%2BHcwlEBuzGyTbunRZZuT9mIr8%3D&reserved=0 > > This document details the Organizational Hierarchy structure for working of > Apache Local Community. > *Important Note* - This document is under review by Apache Community > Development PMC and not finalized yet. The ComDev PMC will take the final > decision on this. > > So, here is the documented hierarchy managed in confluence. > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FCOMDEV%2FApache%2BLocal%2BCommunity%2B-%2BALC&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061443539&sdata=v3DptCy99diJtOSjkLiA1Th%2Fm18gRdUIriPZTefx3Ho%3D&reserved=0 > > Apache Local Community - ALC (Home page) > |-------- ALC Resources > |-------- ALC Chapters > |-------- ALC Indore > |-------- ALC Indore Events > |-------- ALC Indore Reports > |-------- [other ALC Chapter will for same hierarchy as ALC > Indore] > |-------- Reports > |-------- Organizational Hierarchy > > > Please have a look at this and share your valuable thoughts. > Please feel free to comments, we will be happy to incorporate your > suggestions in the ALC. > > [1] > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.apache.org%2Ft6nxd&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061443539&sdata=JR5wKQUdD5mEApuUY%2FUras7rBrl36NRwRBe%2BVxU8lbA%3D&reserved=0 > > > Best regards, > Swapnil M Mane, > https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.apache.org&data=02%7C01%7C%7C5e171914f2b74a7239bf08d71a0ec644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637006523061443539&sdata=IpkdfWObI%2FdGgzWLNmIk8eg1Uwzy%2FaLtCYbLkgMZPAI%3D&reserved=0 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org