There should not be a discussion on a prepare list. Please bring that discussion here. This is a core part of the Apache Way.
--- Sent from my phone, you know what that means - sorry ________________________________ From: Swapnil M Mane <swapnilmm...@apache.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 12:06:31 AM To: dev <dev@community.apache.org> Cc: Sharan Foga <sha...@apache.org> Subject: Re: Apache Local Community (ALC) as a ComDev Initiative Thank you so much Issac and Rich for sharing your kind thoughts. I have read your every input minutely and started a discussion on the private ComDev list, will keep you posted. Thanks again! Best regards, Swapnil M Mane, www.apache.org<http://www.apache.org> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 12:14 AM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > While I'm excited to see this kind of local ambassador program springing > up, I want to be sure that we are not having people use the Apache name > to promote messages that are not *our* message. > > Having local groups of enthusiasts having periodic meetings is great. > What I'm asking is what assurances we want to have in place that the > messaging at these events is accurate? > > In the past, when we have had an official (for whatever value of > "official" we want to go with) Apache-sponsored thing, we require a > member to be involved, so that we know that the message is from someone > who actually knows what the message is. What I'm seeing here is a > free-form "create a group by asking nicely" without any member, or even > committer involved. And the events, and their messaging, are then being > promoted on an .apache.org website, which means that they are an > official statement of the Foundation. > > I'm feeling a little weird about that. > > I agree with Isaac, in that we don't want to set up a lengthy list of > rules for who and how and what, I think that we need to be cautious > about handing out our name, and our reputation, to just anybody that > asks for it. Indeed, it's really kind of critical that we don't. Our > name, and our reputation, are really the only things that we have, and > we simply cannot have unaffiliated groups using our name to promote > messages that are not Approved By Apache. > > Please note that I'm not saying that this has happened thus far. I don't > know that, having not attended any of these events. But we have a long > history of people using our name to promote their own agendas, and we > *must* not allow that. > > > On 11/19/19 1:24 PM, Sharan Foga wrote: > > Hi All > > > > Thanks Swapnil for the links about the ALC and I have re-read through the > > threads. I remembered sensing some push back on the proposed organisational > > hierarchy and see that has now been removed. Following on from that there > > was the comment of ALC being managed either within ComDev or VP > > Conferences. > > > > I dont think this fits with Conferences as it is more like a local meetup > > type event, which means outreach, which to me means ComDev. > > > > So now we need to look at how to manage the integration of the ALC > > initiative. Based on Sally's feedback that means announcing and promoting > > the initiative to a wider audience. I can see some key actions already > > > > - announce the ALC as an initiative (Swapnil we can probably create this > > from your emails about it. Can you draft something? ) > > - promote the next event (include it on the Events calendar, tweet via > > @ApacheCommunity and include a reminder on ComDev) > > - plan for future events (ALC Indore seems to be having events every 1 - > > 2 months, so let's put them on the calendar and prepare for it.) > > - funding (I am not sure if ALC is getting any funding as part of ASF > > small events, or it is being covered from a third party.? BTW ComDev also > > has a budget that could be used to help with stickers, swag etc) > > - grow the ALC community (several people said they were interested in > > setting up other ALCs but so far none have. This could be because of the > > lack of announcement of the initiative - so lets focus on that first) > > > > I'm happy to get feedback and comments on this so please feel free to > > respond if you have any ideas or suggestions. > > > > Thanks > > Sharan > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com > http://rcbowen.com/ > @rbowen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
