I've done a bit of evangelism on this topic: https://blogs.apache.org/comdev/entry/an-approach-to-community-building
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3409SA-QpdE (Apache@Google summit. You were there, but here's a vid) My favorite highlights (maybe from the above but not sure if I said it explicitly; I'm making them up without re-reading or re-watching) - code reviews are a chance to build community (and make friends ?!?) - inclusion of non-code contributions critical and needs highlighting because it isn't highlighted by default - transparency of PMC expectations makes the project more self-serve / empowers contributors - focusing PMC discussions on individuals and the above expectations increases fairness and clarity - encouragement emails have an impact - committers stay engaged (after team/job changes) My phrasing in the blog post was misconstrued by some popular press as a presentation of a problem, when I meant to be celebrating some success. So adjust if you use any of it :-) Beam entered incubation as a Google donation and has grown to be much more than that. The balance isn't perfect, but it is better, so I think it is a success story so far. Having followed a number of Apache dev lists and mentoring a couple still-incubating projects, I would simply emphasize use of the dev@ list for public development discussion/decisions. The people in these projects are smart, so they understand the formality expectations when you say "use the dev@ list" and yet they just don't do it. Why? Mental models, culture, efficiency, incentives? A whole talk on why it is actually important, and not just an ASF habit of yesteryear would go a long way, for both podlings and TLPs that I have followed. Kenn On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 5:30 PM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working on a presentation to the Huawei Developer Conference in > Shenzhen February 11 on the subject of "Growing Communities The Apache Way". > > I'd like to share with the audience some stories of Apache Projects that > have grown their communities, either in the incubator or after becoming a > top level project. > > What I'd like is some facts to discuss, e.g. community makeup before > entering incubator, community exiting incubator, any special actions done > by the community to encourage growth, etc. With some details, I can share > the projects' successes with the developers at the conference. > > Any help is very appreciated. I'll need any input by Friday January 31 (10 > days from now; a day before FOSDEM). > > Thanks, > > Craig > > Craig L Russell > c...@apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >