On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 14:20 -0500, Josh Fischer wrote:
> Yes, I will take point for the June newsletter.

Please start a new thread for each month's newsletter. This one is
getting pretty unweildy to search through. :)


Thanks!

--Rich


> 
> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 2:08 PM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 12:47 -0500, Josh Fischer wrote:
> > > Yeah!  Next month let’s work on making the email cleaner.  Less
> > > is
> > > more
> > > :-).  I saw what was sent, it was still a bit much to parse
> > > through
> > > and
> > > understand.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thank you, Josh, for handling this. Are you willing to take point
> > again
> > for June?
> > 
> > --Rich
> > 
> > 
> > > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 12:35 PM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 1:30 PM Craig Russell
> > > > <apache....@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > I could not find where we decided whether to use members@ or
> > > > members-notify@ but I approved it.
> > > > 
> > > > As did I.  :-)
> > > > 
> > > > > If anyone objects to the mail list, we can have that
> > > > > discussion
> > > > > for next
> > > > time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Craig
> > > > 
> > > > - Sam Ruby
> > > > 
> > > > > > On May 3, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Josh Fischer
> > > > > > <j...@joshfischer.io>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > sent.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 12:05 PM Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > <ja...@potiuk.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Good idea Rich. Converted all subjects to plain text,
> > > > > > > compressed them
> > > > so
> > > > > > > that they fit in three short bullet points (not too long
> > > > > > > paragraph,
> > > > still
> > > > > > > comprehensible) and added the link from Rich :)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 6:12 PM Rich Bowen
> > > > > > > <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 10:56 -0500, Josh Fischer wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Sam Ruby, suggested a plain text version for this
> > > > > > > > > round
> > > > > > > > > of the
> > > > email.
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > **think** markdown was sent out last time and it
> > > > > > > > > didn't
> > > > > > > > > look good,
> > > > > > > > > making
> > > > > > > > > it harder to read/ understand .
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > If we can find a way to make all the links easy to
> > > > > > > > > read,
> > > > > > > > > let's do
> > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > > > not, we might want to move them to an additional,
> > > > > > > > > external apache
> > > > > > > > > wiki link
> > > > > > > > > page and add a single link directing readers to the
> > > > > > > > > additional link
> > > > > > > > > page.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/list?memb...@apache.org:2022-4
> > > > > > > >  is
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > possible
> > > > > > > > link to that, in that it lists all of the threads that
> > > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > > active in
> > > > > > > > April.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > You mean the links to text ? We can do it of course
> > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > I have a
> > > > > > > > > > feeling
> > > > > > > > > > that that defeats the purpose a bit because it
> > > > > > > > > > allows
> > > > > > > > > > the readers
> > > > > > > > > > to jump
> > > > > > > > > > straight to the discussion :).
> > > > > > > > > > I updated it now to have bullet-points instead -
> > > > > > > > > > and as
> > > > > > > > > > long as it
> > > > > > > > > > is not
> > > > > > > > > > too long, that might be better visually.
> > > > > > > > > > But if you feel like we need to decrease the number
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > links, I am
> > > > > > > > > > ok with
> > > > > > > > > > removing the links as well.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > J.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 4:56 PM Josh Fischer
> > > > > > > > > > <j...@joshfischer.io>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Any way we can convert your addition to text?  I
> > > > > > > > > > > feel
> > > > > > > > > > > it may be a
> > > > > > > > > > > lot to
> > > > > > > > > > > sift through visually.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 8:32 AM Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > > > > > > <ja...@potiuk.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Updated. I think it's cool.
> > > > > > > > > > > > I limited it to only discussions started in
> > > > > > > > > > > > April.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Seems we have a small enough number of
> > > > > > > > > > > > discussions
> > > > > > > > > > > > starting
> > > > > > > > > > > > every
> > > > > > > > > > month,
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > fit one small paragraph easily - and seeing
> > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > subjects of
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > discussions with links directly to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > discussions
> > > > > > > > > > > > might be a
> > > > > > > > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > > > > > > reminder/refresher/information for those who
> > > > > > > > > > > > missed
> > > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 3:18 PM Jarek Potiuk
> > > > > > > > > > > > <ja...@potiuk.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One option is to put that digest on a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > page, and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > provide a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > link to it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Or maybe simply put it in one paragraph/long
> > > > > > > > > > > > > line
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with links
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > relevant
> > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions :). I will try to do it and we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > decide if it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > makes
> > > > > > > > > > > sense.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me try.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 2:44 PM Josh Fischer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <j...@joshfischer.io>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I plan on sending the newsletter in a few
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hours.  If
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone wants
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > add
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > anymore details please add them asap.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 7:39 AM Rich Bowen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <rbo...@rcbowen.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2022-05-03 at 12:35 +0200, Jarek
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Potiuk wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I looked through it - I have one other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comment/proposal: should
> > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > add a digest of discussions running on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > members@a.o ?  I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think a
> > > > > > > > > > > lot
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people does not follow up those and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is easy to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > look at
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > archives, maybe listing the discussions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with one-line
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > summary
> > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be good
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy to make such a digest if others
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agree
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a good
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > idea.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, but ... I think it's very important
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make the
> > > > > > > > > > > email
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > longer than one screen-full, as that will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undermine the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > point here
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it being only the most important things
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every member
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MUST
> > > > > > > > > > know.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One option is to put that digest on a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > separate page, and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > provide
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link to it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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