I see that there is considerable disagreement - 
https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/189 - with the change that I have 
made here. While, as I have said, I think that the change is correct as per the 
advice given at https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/pull/189 I’ll modify my 
PR to revert the specific change about voting so that we can move forward.

That said, I think that empowering *one voice* on a PMC to override the wisdom 
of everyone else on that PMC is unwise, and leads directly to the kind of BDFL 
behavior that I’m actively working against on three different projects at this 
time. I find that deeply frustrating.

—Rich

> On Oct 29, 2024, at 10:25 PM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I find it very difficult to deal with policy issues via GitHub PR comments.
> 
> Could we please have a separate thread on the dev list where we discuss 
> issues like:
> 
> What does consensus mean? (I think elsewhere it is lazy approval)
> 
> Can PMC votes be vetoed (by a single -1 vote)?
> 
> Can committer votes be vetoed  (by a single -1 vote)?
> 
> If needed, I will volunteer to start such discussion...
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2024, at 09:35, Rich Bowen <notificati...@github.com> wrote:
>> 
>> @rbowen <https://github.com/rbowen> pushed 1 commit.
>> 
>> 9409c82 
>> <https://github.com/apache/comdev-site/commit/9409c82f87eadf519caec11f1d6ab0f663bb41a9>
>>  vote outcome definition
>> —
>> View it on GitHub 
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