> On Oct 31, 2024, at 2:28 PM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would be in favor of removing "consensus" from our documentation. > > It has a general meaning of "group agreement" which is not how we use it > here. > > I would propose using "unanimous" instead of "consensus" as there seems to be > no ambiguity about unanimity.
Consensus is a great term and is what we do. We don’t do unanimity, we find an acceptable path by working towards Consensus. We should avoid Votes if at all possible. To me Consensus is a Core value of the ASF and without it I have no interest in the Foundation. Best, Dave > > And then "majority approval" which is "more +1 than -1 votes". > > So we would have these with the Apache three vote minimum: > > Procedural votes (new PMC members, new committers) require majority approval > with at least three +1 votes. > > Code changes require unanimous approval with at least three +1 votes. > > While I really dislike changing history, "consensus" has been a bad term for > so long... > > Craig > > >> On Oct 31, 2024, at 07:04, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 1:57 PM Rich Bowen <notificati...@github.com> >> wrote (on a GitHub page): >>> >>> I think possibly one of the points of confusion here is the use of the word >>> "consensus", >>> which has been a point of confusion for years, since that word has several >>> substantially different uses.... >> >> We do have an ASF glossary at >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary, which we might improve and >> which we should IMHO point to more often. >> >> Or maybe create an additional glossary on the comdev website, and link >> both pages for completeness. >> >> -Bertrand >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >> > > Craig L Russell > c...@apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
