I fully agree on the lack of completeness for projects
=> I'm convinced about the disclaimer at the beginning of
 https://projects.apache.org/projects.html
no objection at all on it

On PMCs = Committees, I don't get why you say the list may not be 
comprehensive: of course, there may be bugs, but the list of committees is not 
really done by projects, and even less by DOAP files
Am I wrong, or are you aware of serious issue in our completeness of Committees?


The strong before difference of responsibility, accuracy and completeness of 
data between Committees and Projects is a key reason why I want to clarify that 
DOAP is key for Projects, but not for Committees

(very useful discussion)

Regards,

Hervé

On 2025/06/04 23:42:23 sebb wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jun 2025 at 00:15, Herve Boutemy <hbout...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'd love to have a PR for better discussion...
> >
> > I'll revert if you really feel strong about it
> > but have this copy/pasted in 2 places is IMHO not the most efficient to 
> > help end users understand committees (foundation data) vs projects (DOAP)
> >
> > I just added links behind these 2 terms on the main page to foster focus:
> > https://projects.apache.org/
> >
> > Please confirm if this is ok or if you really want to revert this commit: 
> > I'm not convinced, but I'll add back the copy/paste if you really want
> 
> As it stands, the page reads as though the site contains a
> comprehensive list of all PMCs and projects.
> But that is far from being the case.
> 
> I think it is vital that the main page of the site is very clear that
> it depends on projects providing the information, and that it is
> optional.
> Not only may information be missing, but it may also be out of date.
> 
> It may be reworded, but a clear disclaimer needs to be shown so
> readers are aware.
> 
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hervé
> >
> > On 2025/06/04 08:57:05 sebb wrote:
> > > On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 at 22:59, <hbout...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Author: hboutemy
> > > > Date: Tue Jun  3 21:59:29 2025
> > > > New Revision: 1926099
> > > >
> > > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1926099&view=rev
> > > > Log:
> > > > use no-tlp-doap category to find TLPs with no DOAP
> > > >
> > > > Modified:
> > > >     comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/about.html
> > > >     comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/index.html
> > > >     comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/projects.html
> > > >
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > > Modified: comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/index.html
> > > > URL: 
> > > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/index.html?rev=1926099&r1=1926098&r2=1926099&view=diff
> > > > ==============================================================================
> > > > --- comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/index.html (original)
> > > > +++ comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/site/index.html Tue Jun  3 
> > > > 21:59:29 2025
> > > > @@ -29,9 +29,6 @@
> > > >  </div>
> > > >
> > > >  <div id="contents">
> > > > -   <p>Please note that the information displayed <a 
> > > > href="projects.html">here</a> relies on the DOAP files which <a 
> > > > href="committees.html">PMCs</a> are encouraged to provide.
> > > > -      However DOAPs are not mandatory, and not all PMCs have provided 
> > > > a DOAP for all the projects they manage.
> > > > -   </p>
> > >
> > > -1
> > >
> > > I think that information needs to be retained on the main page.
> > >
> > > >     <h2>Welcome to the Apache Projects Directory</h2>
> > > >     <p>This site is a catalog of Apache Software Foundation projects.
> > > >        It is designed to help you find specific projects that meet your 
> > > > interests and to gain a broader understanding of
> > > >
> > >
> > > <snip>
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