Hi Rich,

Thanks for that. That's a fantastic idea.

ALC deserves his proper home on the ComDev site. I like the approach with
one MD per chapter and assembly at "build time": it's a single source of
truth, and adding a chapter means a PR.

If I may, I have a few suggestions:
- following Andrew's point, we can keep the one file per chapter (it's a
good data model), but render them as entries on a single /alc/chapters
page, and only generate a dedicated page for chapters with actual content.
If I'm not wrong the site is on Hugo, so that should be easy to do with
build options per page.
- I think staleness is the main long term risk. What about adding a
last_activity (or last_verified) date in the front-matter next to status?
Then dormant chapters could be flagged (or hidden from the map)
automatically, and we could do a quick review as part of the ComDev board
report.
- about the CWiki, as you mentioned, it's probably out of date. I'm fine
with the website front door / cwiki source of truth split for now, but long
term I think we would prefer to move the process docs to the website
(versioned and reviewed via PR). In the meantime, /alc/start-a-chapter
should stay a short summary linking to the cwiki, to avoid two diverging
copies.
- for organizers, I would suggest using Apache IDs or a chapter
contact/meetup link rather than personal emails, and of course making sure
organizers are OK to be listed.

Happy to help there if needed :)

Thanks!

Regards
JB

On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 12:02 PM Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, folks (and especially Gav who has stepped up to get some of the ALC
> process updated):
>
> As part of the ongoing effort to tidy up the ComDev website's structure
> and navigation, I'd like to propose adding a new top-level /alc/ section
> for the Apache Local Community program. This augments the existing
> Wiki content - which I still need to review, because I suspect that some
> of it is outdated or inaccurate.
>
> Right now the only ALC presence on community.apache.org is a single
> navbar link under "Join the Conversation" that points off to the cwiki
> page. There's no home for ALC on the site itself, no list of chapters,
> and no map. Given that ALC is a ComDev program, I think it deserves a
> proper section.
>
> == What I'm proposing ==
>
> A new /alc/ section with roughly this shape:
>
>   /alc/                 Landing page: what ALC is, how to find a chapter
>                         near you, how to start one. Includes an
>                         interactive map of chapters.
>   /alc/chapters/        One short page per chapter (city, organizers,
>                         meetup/contact link, recent activity), and then a
> link
>                         to the wiki content.
>   /alc/start-a-chapter  The process for establishing a new chapter, and
>                         the ground rules.
>   /alc/organizers       Practical help for running a chapter: finding
>                         speakers (linked to our existing speaker and
>                         slide resources), event ideas, ALC resources.
>
> == The map ==
>
> I’d like to do a fancy javascripty thing that has a map that updates as we
> add chapters.
>
> Each chapter page would carry a little front-matter block in its Markdown
> (city, country, lat/long, status, organizers). The site build generates
> the map data from those files automatically, so the map stays in sync and
> adding a chapter is just a single Markdown file plus a pull request — no
> separate data source to maintain.
>
> == How it connects to the rest of the site ==
>
>   - The Events dropdown gets a "Local groups" entry pointing at /alc/.
>   - The homepage gets a "Find a local community near you" card.
>   - Chapters can reuse our speaker list and sample-presentation pages.
>   - Event write-ups from chapters can be ordinary blog posts tagged "alc".
>
> == Relationship to the cwiki ==
>
> The ALC program documentation currently lives on the cwiki. The intent
> isn't to fork or replace it — the authoritative program rules (the apply
> and dissolve processes, ALC Resources, Slack invite) can keep living
> there and be linked from /alc/. What the website adds is the public,
> newcomer-facing front door: the "what is this / is there one near me /
> how do I start one" layer, plus the map, which the wiki can't really do.
>
> I wanted to float the structure here first in case there are chapters,
> policies,
> or links I'm missing, and to make sure the split between "website front
> door”
> and "cwiki source of truth” sits right with everyone.
>
> Thoughts welcome.
>
> Rich
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