actual code from gather:
if (inBrowser()) setTimeout(function() {
app.emit('deviceReady')
}, 50)
right now inBrowser looks at window.location.href and fires the event if it
isnt in phonegap. but I use the inBrowser function elsewhere to determine
what login strategy to use (see my previous messages).
if phonegap fires deviceready for me I still won't know if i'm in phonegap
or not
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> So, would that not be deviceready? (I get that those apps that run in
> browser probably fake this event but, if thats the case, then the
> faking would be a userland place to put that sort of thing.)
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Max Ogden <m...@maxogden.com> wrote:
> > I dont think modifying the UA is a good idea but I strongly believe that
> > cordova needs to set *something* that is immediately available from
> browser
> > JS on app load that says "hi you're running in cordova"
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 1) Set a specific UA string like the wikimedia guys do (even tough they
> do
> >> it for other reasons).
> >> 2) I remember us talking about a capabilities api. Not sure what
> transpired
> >> from that discussion.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Back to our original thread. I'm seeing a couple of scenarios.
> >> >
> >> > 1. wants to do analytics reporting (needs user agent)
> >> > 2. wants to do be capability responsive (needs to see if there are
> >> > device apis, usually a specific capability/api combo such as camera)
> >> >
> >> > Thoughts?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Simon MacDonald
> >> > <simon.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > Yup, window.open(url, "_blank") will load the InAppBrowser which is
> >> > > basically a renamed ChildBrowser that actually follows a spec for
> >> > > events.
> >> > > Simon Mac Donald
> >> > > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Max Ogden <m...@maxogden.com> wrote:
> >> > >> In Gather we have a login page that uses childbrowser popup windows
> >> for
> >> > >> oauth if its running in phonegap or popup windows in javascript if
> in
> >> > >> browser. It would be nice childbrowser polyfilled target="_blank"
> >> > (which I
> >> > >> understand is happening in the future) but as for now the
> heuristics
> >> for
> >> > >> detecting which strategy to use boil down to sniffing
> >> > window.location.href
> >> > >> which isn't ideal:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> - if I open my apps index.html in chrome it will have a file:// url
> >> but
> >> > >> wont be in phonegap.
> >> > >> - if I hardcode a domain into my app so that it knows if it is
> running
> >> > from
> >> > >> a server its another thing to remember to update every time the
> domain
> >> > name
> >> > >> changes
> >> > >> - I already do conditional loading of stylesheets and JS based on
> user
> >> > >> agent. I think it would be super useful if there was a user agent
> >> > >> equivalent for cordova so the code could decide what to do based on
> >> > >> environment and not guesses based on href
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Eh Fil, is this so they can detect if they have device apis
> >> ultimately?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Bryce Curtis <
> curtis.br...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>> > I think the answer depends upon when the app checks to see if
> it is
> >> > >>> > running in cordova webview. If it is loading a remote url with
> >> > remote
> >> > >>> > cordova.js, then the native side will become available well
> before
> >> > >>> > cordova.js finished loading. So, I would either check for
> >> > >>> > device.cordova or register for deviceready and wait for it to
> fire.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Gord Tanner <gtan...@gmail.com
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>> >> +1
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> This isn't a platform issue but rather a developer issue
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >> On 2012-11-30, at 7:11 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>
> >> > >>> >>> Presumably the developer knows the url of their own server, so
> >> > >>> >>> wouldn't it be easier to just test for that in
> window.location?
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Jesse <
> purplecabb...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>> So the bigger question then is how to handle the differences
> ...
> >> > >>> >>>>
> >> > >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>>> It is to run a single codebase (or as close to it as
> possible
> >> > minus
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>> >>>>> differences in cordova.js) across web and cordova apps.
> >> > >>> >>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>> On 11/30/12 4:02 PM, "Jesse" <purplecabb...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>> Can we back up and discuss the goal?
> >> > >>> >>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>> Is it to use the same code on the server + inside an app (
> >> that
> >> > is
> >> > >>> >>>>>> packaged for multiple platforms ) ?
> >> > >>> >>>>>> OR
> >> > >>> >>>>>> Is it to load an app on multiple devices all served by the
> >> same
> >> > >>> server?
> >> > >>> >>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Shazron <
> shaz...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>>>>> Its yucky and may break in a future platform version, but
> >> since
> >> > >>> each
> >> > >>> >>>>>>> platform requires its own cordova.js -- then each platform
> >> > could
> >> > >>> define
> >> > >>> >>>>>>> its
> >> > >>> >>>>>>> own cordova.isWebView?
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>> wp7 is x-wmapp
> >> > >>> >>>>>>> iOS is file://
> >> > >>> >>>>>>> BB is http://localhost
> >> > >>> >>>>>>> Android is ?
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Jesse <
> >> > purplecabb...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> WP7 app is loaded from x-wmapp1:/
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> WP8 app is loaded from x-wmapp0:/
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> So file:// will not work
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> There are probably numerous other approches ...
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> deviceready will/should never fire, but that is
> difficult to
> >> > test
> >> > >>> for,
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> because it could just be taking a real long time.
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> I see many issues with this though:
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> - each platform still requires it's own cordova.js, so
> this
> >> > would
> >> > >>> only
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> work with 1 platform + a webserver, so no idea we come up
> >> for
> >> > this
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> will solve the bigger problem.
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Shazron <
> shaz...@gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> document.location starts with http://localhost OR
> starts
> >> > with
> >> > >>> file://
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> then?
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> ;)
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> In any case, any js variable that we could set can be
> >> > overridden
> >> > >>> of
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> course.
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Filip Maj <
> f...@adobe.com>
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> I think in BB WEbWorks you get
> >> > >>> http://localhost/somethingsoemthing
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/30/12 3:35 PM, "Shazron" <shaz...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> "how do we know if we're in cordova or not?" -->
> >> > >>> document.location
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> starts
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> with file:// ?
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> --
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> risingj.com
> >> > >>> >>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>>> --
> >> > >>> >>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >> > >>> >>>>>> risingj.com
> >> > >>> >>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>
> >> > >>> >>>>
> >> > >>> >>>> --
> >> > >>> >>>> @purplecabbage
> >> > >>> >>>> risingj.com
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>>
> >> > >>> >>> --
> >> > >>> >>> @purplecabbage
> >> > >>> >>> risingj.com
> >> > >>>
> >> >
> >>
>
