But the deviceready event is unique to Cordova distributions so, my
point is, you have that code in user land already so it makes sense to
keep it there. (To me.)
Is this just something you'd prefer we handled though? Something that
makes inBrowser() tidier?
On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Max Ogden <m...@maxogden.com> wrote:
> actual code from gather:
>
> if (inBrowser()) setTimeout(function() {
> app.emit('deviceReady')
> }, 50)
>
> right now inBrowser looks at window.location.href and fires the event if it
> isnt in phonegap. but I use the inBrowser function elsewhere to determine
> what login strategy to use (see my previous messages).
>
> if phonegap fires deviceready for me I still won't know if i'm in phonegap
> or not
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
>> So, would that not be deviceready? (I get that those apps that run in
>> browser probably fake this event but, if thats the case, then the
>> faking would be a userland place to put that sort of thing.)
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Max Ogden <m...@maxogden.com> wrote:
>> > I dont think modifying the UA is a good idea but I strongly believe that
>> > cordova needs to set *something* that is immediately available from
>> browser
>> > JS on app load that says "hi you're running in cordova"
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> 1) Set a specific UA string like the wikimedia guys do (even tough they
>> do
>> >> it for other reasons).
>> >> 2) I remember us talking about a capabilities api. Not sure what
>> transpired
>> >> from that discussion.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Back to our original thread. I'm seeing a couple of scenarios.
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. wants to do analytics reporting (needs user agent)
>> >> > 2. wants to do be capability responsive (needs to see if there are
>> >> > device apis, usually a specific capability/api combo such as camera)
>> >> >
>> >> > Thoughts?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Simon MacDonald
>> >> > <simon.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > > Yup, window.open(url, "_blank") will load the InAppBrowser which is
>> >> > > basically a renamed ChildBrowser that actually follows a spec for
>> >> > > events.
>> >> > > Simon Mac Donald
>> >> > > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Max Ogden <m...@maxogden.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> In Gather we have a login page that uses childbrowser popup windows
>> >> for
>> >> > >> oauth if its running in phonegap or popup windows in javascript if
>> in
>> >> > >> browser. It would be nice childbrowser polyfilled target="_blank"
>> >> > (which I
>> >> > >> understand is happening in the future) but as for now the
>> heuristics
>> >> for
>> >> > >> detecting which strategy to use boil down to sniffing
>> >> > window.location.href
>> >> > >> which isn't ideal:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> - if I open my apps index.html in chrome it will have a file:// url
>> >> but
>> >> > >> wont be in phonegap.
>> >> > >> - if I hardcode a domain into my app so that it knows if it is
>> running
>> >> > from
>> >> > >> a server its another thing to remember to update every time the
>> domain
>> >> > name
>> >> > >> changes
>> >> > >> - I already do conditional loading of stylesheets and JS based on
>> user
>> >> > >> agent. I think it would be super useful if there was a user agent
>> >> > >> equivalent for cordova so the code could decide what to do based on
>> >> > >> environment and not guesses based on href
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> Eh Fil, is this so they can detect if they have device apis
>> >> ultimately?
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Bryce Curtis <
>> curtis.br...@gmail.com
>> >> >
>> >> > >>> wrote:
>> >> > >>> > I think the answer depends upon when the app checks to see if
>> it is
>> >> > >>> > running in cordova webview. If it is loading a remote url with
>> >> > remote
>> >> > >>> > cordova.js, then the native side will become available well
>> before
>> >> > >>> > cordova.js finished loading. So, I would either check for
>> >> > >>> > device.cordova or register for deviceready and wait for it to
>> fire.
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Gord Tanner <gtan...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >>> >> +1
>> >> > >>> >>
>> >> > >>> >> This isn't a platform issue but rather a developer issue
>> >> > >>> >>
>> >> > >>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> > >>> >>
>> >> > >>> >> On 2012-11-30, at 7:11 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>> >>
>> >> > >>> >>> Presumably the developer knows the url of their own server, so
>> >> > >>> >>> wouldn't it be easier to just test for that in
>> window.location?
>> >> > >>> >>>
>> >> > >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Jesse <
>> purplecabb...@gmail.com>
>> >> > >>> wrote:
>> >> > >>> >>>> So the bigger question then is how to handle the differences
>> ...
>> >> > >>> >>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >>> >>>>> It is to run a single codebase (or as close to it as
>> possible
>> >> > minus
>> >> > >>> the
>> >> > >>> >>>>> differences in cordova.js) across web and cordova apps.
>> >> > >>> >>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>> On 11/30/12 4:02 PM, "Jesse" <purplecabb...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>> >>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>> Can we back up and discuss the goal?
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>> Is it to use the same code on the server + inside an app (
>> >> that
>> >> > is
>> >> > >>> >>>>>> packaged for multiple platforms ) ?
>> >> > >>> >>>>>> OR
>> >> > >>> >>>>>> Is it to load an app on multiple devices all served by the
>> >> same
>> >> > >>> server?
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Shazron <
>> shaz...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> Its yucky and may break in a future platform version, but
>> >> since
>> >> > >>> each
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> platform requires its own cordova.js -- then each platform
>> >> > could
>> >> > >>> define
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> its
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> own cordova.isWebView?
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> wp7 is x-wmapp
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> iOS is file://
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> BB is http://localhost
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> Android is ?
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Jesse <
>> >> > purplecabb...@gmail.com>
>> >> > >>> wrote:
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> WP7 app is loaded from x-wmapp1:/
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> WP8 app is loaded from x-wmapp0:/
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> So file:// will not work
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> There are probably numerous other approches ...
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> deviceready will/should never fire, but that is
>> difficult to
>> >> > test
>> >> > >>> for,
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> because it could just be taking a real long time.
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> I see many issues with this though:
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> - each platform still requires it's own cordova.js, so
>> this
>> >> > would
>> >> > >>> only
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> work with 1 platform + a webserver, so no idea we come up
>> >> for
>> >> > this
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> will solve the bigger problem.
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Shazron <
>> shaz...@gmail.com
>> >> >
>> >> > >>> wrote:
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> document.location starts with http://localhost OR
>> starts
>> >> > with
>> >> > >>> file://
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> then?
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> ;)
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> In any case, any js variable that we could set can be
>> >> > overridden
>> >> > >>> of
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> course.
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Filip Maj <
>> f...@adobe.com>
>> >> > >>> wrote:
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> I think in BB WEbWorks you get
>> >> > >>> http://localhost/somethingsoemthing
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/30/12 3:35 PM, "Shazron" <shaz...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> "how do we know if we're in cordova or not?" -->
>> >> > >>> document.location
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> starts
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>>>> with file:// ?
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>>> risingj.com
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>>> --
>> >> > >>> >>>>>> @purplecabbage
>> >> > >>> >>>>>> risingj.com
>> >> > >>> >>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>>
>> >> > >>> >>>> --
>> >> > >>> >>>> @purplecabbage
>> >> > >>> >>>> risingj.com
>> >> > >>> >>>
>> >> > >>> >>>
>> >> > >>> >>>
>> >> > >>> >>> --
>> >> > >>> >>> @purplecabbage
>> >> > >>> >>> risingj.com
>> >> > >>>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
