Thanks for the input Bryan!

Good ref's for storage locations:
Android: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/data-storage.html):
iOS:
http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/FileManagement/Conceptual/FileSystemProgrammingGUide/FileSystemOverview/FileSystemOverview.html

Shared files:
On Android, they go on /sdcard/Pictures, /sdcard/Music, etc.
On iOS, Photos & Videos are shared via the AssetLibrary framework and music
through the MusicPlayer framework. Neither one is provides a
filesystem-like interface.


Would SHARED be different from EXTERNAL_ROOT? Maybe SHARED would be a
better name for it?


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Bryan Higgins <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> I really like this proposal. It's something we'd likely pick up for
> BlackBerry WebWorks.
>
> Right now we have a separate API call which removes the sandbox and exposes
> the full file system via PERSISTENT. We provide constants for paths to
> things like application root, sd card and shared directories. Sandboxed
> file systems are rooted in a subdirectory of the application. That approach
> (plus our use of local:/// protocol) has caused some confusion with
> developers.
>
> I think the list of android constants would work well for BB10, perhaps
> with the addition of SHARED. I'm not too familiar with iOS and Android file
> systems. Is there a single directory which contains shared documents,
> music, etc?
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Andrew Grieve <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > FYI - Still looking for feedback here!
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Andrew Grieve (JIRA) <[email protected]>
> > Date: Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM
> > Subject: [jira] [Commented] (CB-285) Add property returning root path of
> > PhoneGap files
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> >     [
> >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-285?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13571437#comment-13571437
> > ]
> >
> > Andrew Grieve commented on CB-285:
> > ----------------------------------
> >
> > I like the idea of switching PERSISTENT to be internal-only. The W3C spec
> > intends this area to be sandboxed to the app, so shouldn't be on the
> > sdcard.
> >
> > I think we need more than just an APP constant though, as there are many
> > places where an app might want to put things.
> >
> > For iOS, You'd minimally want:
> > 1. Application bundle,
> > 2. <Application_Home>
> >
> >
> > The other locations are all subdirectories of <Application_Home>, so not
> a
> > big deal if we don't have constants for them
> >
> > For Android, You'd minimally want:
> > 1. Assets directory (seems like a parallel to iOS Application Bundle)
> > 2. Application data on internal storage (/data/data/$PACKAGE_NAME/files)
> > 3. Application cache on internal storage (/data/data/$PACKAGE_NAME/cache)
> > 4. External root: (/sdcard)
> >
> > We could maybe combine #2 and #3 into a single one that gave you
> > /data/data/$PACKAGE_NAME, and document that Android wants files in the
> > "files" and "cache" directories.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Ideal iOS constants:
> >  1. PERSISTENT changes from <Application_Home>/Documents -->
> > <Application_Home>/Library/CdvPersistentStorage
> >  2. TEMPORARY changes from <Application_Home>/tmp -->
> > <Application_Home>/tmp/CdvTemporaryStorage
> >  3. APP_ASSETS --> Application bundle
> >  4. APP_DATA --> <Application_Home>
> >
> > The main reason for changing #1 is that iCloud treats Documents directory
> > specially
> > The main reason for adding subdirs under Library/tmp is that it keeps the
> > storage areas separate from the rest of the app (apps that have native
> > components won't interfere with the webview's storage area).
> >
> > The ideal Android constants:
> >  1. PERSISTENT --> /data/data/$PACKAGE_NAME/files/CdvPersistentStorage
> >  2. TEMPORARY --> /data/data/$PACKAGE_NAME/cache/CdvTemporaryStorage
> >  3. APP_ASSETS --> assets directory
> >  4. APP_DATA --> /data/data/$PACKAGE_NAME
> >  5. EXTERNAL_APP_DATA --> /sdcard/Android/data/$PACKAGE_NAME
> >  6. EXTERNAL_ROOT --> /sdcard
> >
> >
> > I even think there would be merit in adding more constants (e.g.
> DOCUMENTS,
> > android resources) going forward, but one step at a time...
> >
> >
> > == Transitioning to these new constants ==
> >
> > TEMPORARY:
> > Use the new path right away. No need to transition since the files there
> > are temporary anyways.
> >
> >
> > PERSISTENT (iOS):
> > - If new location directory exists, use that.
> > - Else, if any files exist in the legacy location, use the legacy
> location
> > - Else, use the new path.
> >
> > PERSISTENT (Android):
> > - PERSISTENT is currently /sdcard, so files will always exist :(
> >
> > In both cases, add a PERSISTENT_NEW constant to allow them to move their
> > files over.
> > In Cordova 3.0, change PERSISTENT to be PERSISTENT_NEW, and add
> > PERSISTENT_LEGACY (in case apps have still not switched).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Side issue:
> >
> > The spec says PERSISTENT and TEMPORARY are constants on the window object
> > (ugh). So far though, Cordova has exposed them not as globals, but
> instead
> > as LocalFileSystem.PERSISTENT and LocalFileSystem.TEMPORARY. I like the
> > idea of exposing them on LocalFileSystem, but we should also put
> PERSISTENT
> > and TEMPORARY on the window.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Add property returning root path of PhoneGap files
> > > --------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >                 Key: CB-285
> > >                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-285
> > >             Project: Apache Cordova
> > >          Issue Type: Improvement
> > >          Components: CordovaJS
> > >    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
> > >         Environment: Both PhoneGap SDK and PhoneGap Build
> > >            Reporter: Ashley Gullen
> > >            Assignee: Andrew Grieve
> > >              Labels: features
> > >
> > > There needs to be a property in PhoneGap that returns the root path to
> > the general files added to the PhoneGap project (i.e. the directory
> > index.html is in).  For example, if I add 'music.mp3' to my project, in
> > Android it will be located in:
> > > /android_asset/www/music.mp3
> > > On iOS after being built with PhoneGap Build it will be located in some
> > path like this:
> > > /var/mobile/Applications/<app_ID>/<name>.app/www/music.mp3
> > > However, there does not appear to be a programmatic way to determine
> both
> > <app_ID> and <name>.app.
> > > This has two side effects:
> > > 1. Paths to audio for Media must be hard-coded separately depending on
> > the platform, which is inconvenient.
> > > 2. Paths to audio for Media cannot be known if developing a framework
> > that uses PhoneGap.  Since a framework does not know the App ID or name
> in
> > advance, it's impossible for the framework to determine the correct path.
> > > This is actively blocking audio from working on iOS in PhoneGap
> projects
> > exported by Construct 2 (www.scirra.com), a HTML5 game creator.  Also,
> it
> > seems like kind of an important function to make available anyway, since
> > hard-coding paths for each platform is a pain.
> > > This PhoneGap Support thread led to this issue:
> >
> >
> http://phonegap.tenderapp.com/discussions/questions/208-android_asset-equivalent-for-ios
> >
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