Huge +1 to plugin templates. (we already have an app template, right?)
-Michal On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Tommy-Carlos Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>wrote: > The barrier of having more config files is real and change is starting to > cause fatigue amongst the plugin authors I deal with regularly. > > Having said that, I think JSON would be a welcome change overall… > > There really are not that many plugins that are set up with a plugin.xml > yet that I know of anyway. People on this list are probably the authors or > maintainers of most of them. ;) > > I know we are going to start getting tool fatigue ourselves soon, but > would something like npm's init[1] be useful to alleviate some of the > barriers? Much like the cordova cli sets you up with a folder structure > (similarly the yeoman tooling for web dev) maybe we could add a command to > ask a few questions (or take a few args) and spit out some sane defaults > and create a structure for plugin dev? > > - Tommy-Carlos "fighting for plugin authors since 2010" Williams > > :P > > > [1] https://npmjs.org/doc/init.html > > > > On 23/03/2013, at 1:18 PM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: > > > I generally prefer json whenever possible as well, so if its feasible to > > change I'de give that a +1, but I'm not sure how many plugins out there > > already use the manifest based structure. > > > > As far as creating a second manifest just to register with a universe, > this > > isn't unheard of may have benefits, but its yet another barrier for entry > > for 3rdparty plugin devs. It would be really awesome if sharing plugins > > with the world were as simple as providing a git repo+tag+directory. I'm > > not sure I buy the versioning argument, whatever structure we come up > with > > for version dependancies will have the same likelihood of changing over > > time no matter which file we put it in. > > > > -Michal > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Yeah the only issue with plugin.xml is that it's ....XML :-D > >> > >> It would be so much easier to have it stored in JSON. We can make > plugman > >> parse the XML from a remote source but I would rather store everything > in > >> JSON. > >> > >> Also there can be multiple versions of plugin.xml. I think that is a > good > >> enough reason to store the relevant data about plugins (compatible > cordova > >> versions with a given plugin version, dependencies, etc...) in an > >> easy-to-read format (JSON). There is a bit of duplication yes but it's > for > >> a good cause and the gain is huge. > >> > >> The submission process would be: > >> - A plugin author submits a new plugin, gives it a version and specifies > >> which version of cordova it was tested on. > >> - A new version of Cordova comes out and requires the plugin author to > >> update their plugin to stay compatible. > >> - We start building the Cordova version <=> plugin version mapping like > >> that. > >> > >> Thoughts ? > >> > >> -a > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > >> > >>> makes sense to me; we'll likely want to query on that stuff eventually > >>> > >>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Should the universe just keep a copy of a plugin.xml so that it can > >> have > >>> a > >>>> list of plugin dependancies and everything? plugin.xml will already > >>> have a > >>>> list of compatible cordova versions, right? > >>>> > >>>> Then the universe can manage a reverse mapping if it wants fast > access. > >>>> > >>>> -Michal > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> A plugin should specify the Cordova versions it supports too. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > >>>>>> I am sure we all agree to this. Want to get a sense of how it will > >>>>>> happen. Anis you mentioned you need Braden to commit the JS stuff > >>>>>> first? > >>>>> > >>> > >> > >