I have replied on the jira issue.

There are still numerous outstanding things with this piece of code.
1) it cannot use other APIs because it all happens before deviceready, XHR
to local files requires the FileAPI on WP7 + 8
2) still waiting to hear on the timing differences compared with script tags
3) tired of being the curmudgeon on the list, but why do we keep making
things more and more complicated?


@purplecabbage
risingj.com


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just had a chat with Fil and learned that we did not have automatic js
> installation until braden implemented this. So disregard my last post.
>
> I am reviewing some of our old threads on this issue. If anyone else is
> interested, You can view [1]
>
> [1]
>
> http://apache.markmail.org/message/vxmd3yrr5i5q27w3?q=plugman+plugin_loader%2Ejs
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This may be unpopular, but I'm wondering if the best solution might be to
> > drop jsmodule/cordova_plugins.json and go back to just including script
> > tags in plugin.xml that get added to your index.html/cordova.js. I know
> it
> > isn't as pretty, but it won't have to deal with these issues.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <br...@bryanhiggins.net
> >wrote:
> >
> >> That won't work for remotely hosted pages and wouldn't allow for the
> File
> >> API to be pulled out into a plugin.
> >>
> >> Based on the constraints, the only other solution I can think of is to
> >> require that cordova.js sits at the root of the project. The plugin
> loader
> >> scripts could then figure out the path based on the cordova-js script
> tag.
> >> The original plan was to inject directly into cordova-js, which would
> have
> >> imposed a similar constraint, but a decision was made to use a JSON file
> >> to
> >> avoid code generation issues.
> >>
> >> Keep in mind that the path is relative to the HTML file, not the script
> >> making the XHR.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Could we leverage our own File API to load the plugins json instead of
> >> > relying on (possibly unclear local vs remote) XHR semantics?
> >> >
> >> > On 5/15/13 12:03 PM, "Steven Gill" <stevengil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Hey All,
> >> > >
> >> > >If you haven't checked out issue CB-3393[1], you should. I believe
> >> this is
> >> > >a pretty big problem and brings into question the way we are loading
> >> > >plugins.
> >> > >
> >> > >Using an absolute path is not going to work as Braden suggests in the
> >> > >comments of the issue. He proposes adding code to cordova.js that
> will
> >> > >search for the cordova_plugins.json file and reference it correctly.
> >> This
> >> > >feels very hacky to me and will lead to more issues. I believe we
> need
> >> to
> >> > >reconsider how we are loading plugins.
> >> > >
> >> > >I am hoping more people decide to chime in on this discussion.
> >> > >
> >> > >[1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3393
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com
> >
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hey Bryan,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks for chiming in. I realized this after I made the change
> >> > >>yesterday.
> >> > >> Tracking it with https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3393
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Cheers,
> >> > >> -Steve
> >> > >> On May 15, 2013 5:34 AM, "Bryan Higgins" <bhigg...@blackberry.com>
> >> > >>wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Thanks Steve. I meant to bring that commit up on the list.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> The problem is that the relative reference to cordova_plugins.json
> >> only
> >> > >>> works when the page is in the same directory as that file. Is that
> >> > >>>also an
> >> > >>> issue on ios/android? If so, is there a standard cross platform
> way
> >> to
> >> > >>> reference a file in the root of a cordova app?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> We had to do something similar in plugman. This has not yet been
> >> merged
> >> > >>> in:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> >
> >>
> https://github.com/blackberry/cordova-plugman/commit/7f8b704b6d4eb7419ca
> >> > >>>a56faee743f841bc987bd
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Steven Gill <
> >> stevengil...@gmail.com>
> >> > >>> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> > Hey All,
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > The BB10 stuff got merged into cordova.js. The following commit
> >> > >>>breaks
> >> > >>> > plugin_loader for ios + android.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> >
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-js/commit/8d59461c6f796f2c88a0eae2467c
> >> > >>>c663897ccce9
> >> > >>> > .
> >> > >>> > I am going to remove the slash for now.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > -Steve
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

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