great! Thanks Fil!

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Filip Maj <[email protected]> wrote:

> So just to touch on this again, BlackBerry's work on cordova-plugman has
> been merged into master and is working great.
>
> CLI still to be sorted but that's a work in progress anyways.
>
> On 5/13/13 10:26 AM, "Lorin Beer" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Alright, I think this is sufficient for the merge into apache master.
> >We are leaving the cli and plugman contributions to Fil and Anis to sort
> >out, I'll be merging
> >docs
> >cordova-js
> >blackberry
> >
> >- Lorin
> >
> >
> >On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Bryan Higgins
> ><[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Lorin,
> >>
> >> The first drafts of getting started and plugin development are out on a
> >> pull request. Command line usage should be there as well today.
> >>
> >> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/40
> >>
> >> There are a few other pull requests in cordova-blackberry and cordova-js
> >> which are ready to be merged in. Could you help with that? I created
> >>JIRA
> >> issues for all of them last week. Anything which has been reviewed and
> >> tested will have a "ready to merge" comment. It would be good to get
> >>them
> >> into future before merging into master so we don't have to re-target
> >> everything again.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bryan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Ken Wallis <[email protected]>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks Lorin.  Exciting times for us to see this in Apache. ;)
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > Ken Wallis
> >> >
> >> > Product Manager ­ WebWorks
> >> >
> >> > BlackBerry
> >> >
> >> > 289-261-4369
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________________
> >> > From: Lorin Beer [[email protected]]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:26 AM
> >> > To: dev
> >> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
> >> >
> >> > pulled into apache:
> >> >
> >> > github.com/blackberry/
> >> >   cordova-blackberry to future branch
> >> >   cordova-js to future branch
> >> >   cordova-cli to apache future-bb10 branch
> >> >   cordova-plugman to apache future branch
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > spoke briefly with Anis concerning merging into plugman and cli, this
> >> will
> >> > likely wait until Fil Maj is back from Max. The plugman changes seem
> >>to
> >> be
> >> > orthogonal to the master/future branch (ie non-breaking).
> >> >
> >> > as for cordova-js and cordova-blackberry, plan is to merge those as
> >>soon
> >> as
> >> > docs are in place.
> >> >
> >> > It can take a few hours for the github mirrors to catch up to
> >>git-apache,
> >> > but retarget those pull requests anytime.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Lorin Beer <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > will do
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins
> >><[email protected]
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
> >> > >> blackberry/blackberry10
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open
> >>pull
> >> > >> requests which I will re-target.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <
> >> > [email protected]
> >> > >> >wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > What about plugman and cli?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> >> > >> > From: Lorin Beer
> >> > >> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
> >> > >> > To: dev
> >> > >> > Reply To: [email protected]
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
> >> > >> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the
> >> docs
> >> > >> are
> >> > >> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> > [email protected]
> >> > >> > >wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > Hi Lorin,
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough
> >>draft
> >> > over
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > > next couple days.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > [email protected]>
> >> > >> > > wrote:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place.
> >>Let me
> >> > >> know
> >> > >> > > when
> >> > >> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > - Lorin
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > >> [email protected]>
> >> > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with
> >>our
> >> > >> teams
> >> > >> > > next
> >> > >> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max
> >> > migration
> >> > >> > > date,
> >> > >> > > > > late next week.
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > Lorin
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> > >> > [email protected]
> >> > >> > > > >wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the
> >>docs
> >> > >> people
> >> > >> > > this
> >> > >> > > > >> afternoon.
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft
> >> while
> >> > >> I'm
> >> > >> > > > flying
> >> > >> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> Thanks,
> >> > >> > > > >> Bryan
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > >> > [email protected]>
> >> > >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my
> >>experience
> >> > with
> >> > >> > the
> >> > >> > > > new
> >> > >> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the
> >>necessary
> >> > >> > workflows
> >> > >> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time
> >> consuming.
> >> > >> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only
> >>blockers
> >> to
> >> > >> > > pulling
> >> > >> > > > >> the
> >> > >> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would
> >> really
> >> > >> like
> >> > >> > > to
> >> > >> > > > >> see
> >> > >> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > - Lorin
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > >> > > [email protected]
> >> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull
> >> those
> >> > in
> >> > >> > > > >> alongside
> >> > >> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end
> >> about
> >> > >> > this.
> >> > >> > > > What
> >> > >> > > > >> > I'd
> >> > >> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external
> >> dependency.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with
> >>2.4.0-rc1
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and
> >> the
> >> > >> core
> >> > >> > BB
> >> > >> > > > >> repo
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> > >> > > > >> [email protected]
> >> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of
> >> this
> >> > >> > > included.
> >> > >> > > > >> You
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> can
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our
> >>forks
> >> to
> >> > >> keep
> >> > >> > > tabs
> >> > >> > > > >> on
> >> > >> > > > >> > us.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the
> >> answers
> >> > to
> >> > >> > your
> >> > >> > > > >> > specific
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> questions:
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they
> >>haven't
> >> yet
> >> > >> > pushed
> >> > >> > > > >> > anything
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo.
> >>For
> >> > >> > > WebWorks,
> >> > >> > > > >> it is
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the
> >>distributable.
> >> > I'm
> >> > >> > fine
> >> > >> > > > with
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm
> >> > >> install
> >> > >> > on
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still
> >> need
> >> > to
> >> > >> > > bring
> >> > >> > > > in
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> hello
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces
> >> > blackberry10
> >> > >> > as a
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> platform.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > >> > > > [email protected]
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning
> >>the
> >> > >> imminent
> >> > >> > > > >> > migration
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> of
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
> >> > >> replacing
> >> > >> > > the
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> existing
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being
> >>tracked
> >> > >> here:
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10
> >> > implementation
> >> > >> is
> >> > >> > > > only 3
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> tests
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation,
> >>and
> >> is
> >> > >> > stable
> >> > >> > > > >> enough
> >> > >> > > > >> > to
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > accept.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new
> >> implementation.
> >> > >> If
> >> > >> > > this
> >> > >> > > > >> work
> >> > >> > > > >> > is
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it
> >>in
> >> > the
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is
> >> not
> >> > an
> >> > >> > > issue,
> >> > >> > > > >> as I
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However,
> >>I
> >> > would
> >> > >> > like
> >> > >> > > > to
> >> > >> > > > >> see
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the
> >>npm
> >> > >> > install
> >> > >> > > > >> step)
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> rather
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be
> >> > >> brought
> >> > >> > up
> >> > >> > > to
> >> > >> > > > >> > 2.7.0
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of
> >> cordova.js,
> >> > we
> >> > >> > need
> >> > >> > > > to
> >> > >> > > > >> add
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> this
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please
> >> chime
> >> > >> in
> >> > >> > to
> >> > >> > > > >> correct
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> any
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or
> >> > discuss
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > > > >> above.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira
> >>issue
> >> > >> > > discussion
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> threads.
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
> >> > >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > >> >
> >> > >> > > > >>
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > > >
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> >
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