What are we doing about https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6302?

I think they're afraid of messing things up for us. Does someone want to
answer his questions? (I'm not sure what the correct approach is...)


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Braden Shepherdson <bra...@chromium.org>wrote:

> Let's see how quickly they react to the new ticket.
>
> Braden
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > My intuition is we'll need to bump the infra guys on irc..
> >
> > On 6/10/13 1:16 PM, "Braden Shepherdson" <bra...@chromium.org> wrote:
> >
> > >Since it's been nearly two weeks with no movement despite a bump, I've
> > >closed the old INFRA ticket and opened a new one[1] stating that we
> intend
> > >to move forward with option 2.
> > >
> > >Braden
> > >
> > >[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6374
> > >
> > >
> > >On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Braden Shepherdson
> > ><bra...@chromium.org>wrote:
> > >
> > >> Waiting on INFRA. I've already told them that we want to go with 2.
> > >>
> > >> Braden
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Benn Mapes <benn.ma...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I'm fine with option 2, lets get this done.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > SGTM
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On 6/4/13 10:44 AM, "Braden Shepherdson" <bra...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > >I did some experimenting on my local disk to see what would happen
> > >>>if
> > >>> we
> > >>> > >did go with option 2. It's pretty sane and safe:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >- If someone re-clones as requested, all is well.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >- If someone doesn't re-clone, then there are two cases:
> > >>> > >    - Merging the old local master against the new remote master:
> > >>> Massive
> > >>> > >conflicts; should remind people that there was something about
> this
> > >>> repo.
> > >>> > >    - Pushing the old local master to the new remote master: Fails
> > >>> because
> > >>> > >it's not a fast-forward merge.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >So that's pretty okay. It would take real effort to resolve these
> > >>> > >conflicts
> > >>> > >and try to push the result. No one is likely to do that, and they
> > >>>still
> > >>> > >can't cause lasting damage unless it's a committer. All the
> > >>>committers
> > >>> are
> > >>> > >aware of this problem, and getting that huge conflict is likely to
> > >>> remind
> > >>> > >them of this.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >Braden
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >> Thanks for taking that on Braden
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> On 6/3/13 10:15 AM, "Braden Shepherdson" <bra...@chromium.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> >I've bumped the INFRA ticket[1], I'll keep this thread up to
> date
> > >>> with
> > >>> > >>any
> > >>> > >> >changes there.
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> >Braden
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> >On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> > >> >
> > >>> > >> >> Option 2! Let's move forward and get this sorted.
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> On 5/29/13 1:17 PM, "Jesse MacFadyen" <
> purplecabb...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >>> > >>wrote:
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> >I am liking option 2 now. Seems easy enough.
> > >>> > >> >> >
> > >>> > >> >> >Cheers,
> > >>> > >> >> >  Jesse
> > >>> > >> >> >
> > >>> > >> >> >Sent from my iPhone5
> > >>> > >> >> >
> > >>> > >> >> >On 2013-05-29, at 9:06 AM, Michal Mocny <
> mmo...@chromium.org>
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> > >> >> >
> > >>> > >> >> >For the record, I don't mind a reclone, so long as there are
> > >>>no
> > >>> > >> >>negative
> > >>> > >> >> >repercussions, ie, (1) its not called master2 and (2) there
> > >>>is no
> > >>> > >>way
> > >>> > >> >>for
> > >>> > >> >> >anyone to shoot us in the foot if they forget to re-clone
> > >>> properly
> > >>> > >>and
> > >>> > >> >> >start doing merges/pushes/whatever.
> > >>> > >> >> >
> > >>> > >> >> >So, if (2) fails loudly thats my preference.  Otherwise, I
> > >>>don't
> > >>> > >>mind
> > >>> > >> >>(4)
> > >>> > >> >> >but others might, and I hate (3) more than (1) :)
> > >>> > >> >> >
> > >>> > >> >> >-Michal
> > >>> > >> >> >
> > >>> > >> >> >
> > >>> > >> >> >On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Braden Shepherdson
> > >>> > >> >> ><bra...@chromium.org>wrote:
> > >>> > >> >> >
> > >>> > >> >> >> This would be an example of "continuing to pay the price
> for
> > >>> not
> > >>> > >> >>being
> > >>> > >> >> >> willing to re-clone 1, 3, 6, 12 months ago." We can avoid
> > >>>all
> > >>> of
> > >>> > >>that
> > >>> > >> >> >> nonsense with three lines.
> > >>> > >> >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> >> Braden
> > >>> > >> >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Michal Mocny
> > >>> > >><mmo...@chromium.org>
> > >>> > >> >> >> wrote:
> > >>> > >> >> >>
> > >>> > >> >> >>> Can we go with (1) and still keep master2 around (perhaps
> > >>> rename
> > >>> > >>it
> > >>> > >> >>to
> > >>> > >> >> >>> something sensible) so that we can still get full history
> > >>>but
> > >>> > >>with
> > >>> > >> >>one
> > >>> > >> >> >>> level of indirection:
> > >>> > >> >> >>> - The mega commit could have a commit message such as
> "THIS
> > >>> WAS A
> > >>> > >> >>HACKY
> > >>> > >> >> >>> MERGE, FOR REAL HISTORY LOOK IN THE OLD_FUTURE BRANCH"
> > >>> > >> >> >>> - When you bit blame and see that as the commit
> > >>>responsible,
> > >>> you
> > >>> > >> >>know
> > >>> > >> >> >>>you
> > >>> > >> >> >>> have to git blame again in the other branch
> > >>> > >> >> >>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>> -Michal
> > >>> > >> >> >>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Ian Clelland
> > >>> > >> >><iclell...@google.com>
> > >>> > >> >> >>> wrote:
> > >>> > >> >> >>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> SInce 2 and 3 both require re-cloning the repository,
> I'd
> > >>> much
> > >>> > >> >>rather
> > >>> > >> >> >> go
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> with 2, and rename the branches appropriately.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Brian LeRoux
> > >>><b...@brian.io>
> > >>> > >>wrote:
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> ya the rename easiest
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Braden Shepherdson <
> > >>> > >> >> >>> bra...@chromium.org
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> wrote:
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> I'll keep this thread up to date with INFRA's
> responses.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> I asked INFRA about options and their implications.
> > >>>These
> > >>> are
> > >>> > >>the
> > >>> > >> >> >>> four
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> options I described, after I was informed that our
> > >>>original
> > >>> > >> >>request
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> would
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> actually require everyone to re-clone the repo.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> 1. Check out master, delete all the files, copy in all
> > >>>the
> > >>> > >>files
> > >>> > >> >> >>> from
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> master2, check them all in. This keep the branching
> the
> > >>> same,
> > >>> > >>and
> > >>> > >> >> >> no
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> one
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> would need to re-clone. But it also makes the history
> > >>> nearly
> > >>> > >> >> >> useless
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> before
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> that point. I dislike this option, but it's there.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> 2. Rename master to old_master or similar, and rename
> > >>> master2
> > >>> > >>to
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> master.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> Since everyone is re-cloning anyway, this is possible.
> > >>> Keeps
> > >>> > >>the
> > >>> > >> >> >> name
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> consistent. This might be nasty if someone tries to
> > >>>merge
> > >>> > >>between
> > >>> > >> >> >> an
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> old
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> master and the new master. Unless git can notice that
> > >>> things
> > >>> > >>are
> > >>> > >> >> >>> wrong
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> and
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> they should re-clone.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> 3. My original request to move HEAD. Exposes the
> master2
> > >>> name
> > >>> > >>and
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> requires
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> everyone to use it. Still requires a re-clone.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> 4. Abandon the repository and recreate it under a new
> > >>>name,
> > >>> > >> >>pushing
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> only
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> master2 as the new master. Requires a re-clone and
> > >>>changing
> > >>> > >>the
> > >>> > >> >> >> name.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> Probably not, but it's an option.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> What do people think? I'm most partial to 2, since it
> > >>> > >>preserves
> > >>> > >> >>the
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> master
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> name and it's hard to avoid recloning.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> Braden
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Jesse
> > >>> > >><purplecabb...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> wrote:
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> What is the resolution on this?
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> My opinion: History is in the past, move on.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> I think it's okay if it is history is messy, or even
> if
> > >>> has a
> > >>> > >> >>few
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> duplicate
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> commits.  Tangles and all.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> risingj.com
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Braden Shepherdson <
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> bra...@chromium.org
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> I think so, but only if we're prepared to keep the
> > >>> tangled
> > >>> > >> >> >> history
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> and
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> duplicate about 30 commits. Several mistakes were
> made
> > >>> with
> > >>> > >>the
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> branching
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> and rebasing of things on master, and there's a lot
> of
> > >>> > >> >> >> duplication
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> and
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> confusion in the history.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> When you get in this morning, I can show you the
> > >>> whiteboard
> > >>> > >> >> >>> diagram
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> of
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> the
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> long version above, and then you can look at the
> > >>> histories
> > >>> > >>of
> > >>> > >> >> >>> master
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> and
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> master2 on GitX. I think you'll agree it's worth
> > >>>moving
> > >>> > >>forward
> > >>> > >> >> >>> with
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> master2.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Braden
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> agri...@chromium.org
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> Could we merge master2 into master with:
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> git merge --strategy-option=theirs master2
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Braden
> Shepherdson <
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> bra...@chromium.org
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> tl;dr version: cordova-cli now has a master2
> branch
> > >>> that
> > >>> > >> >> >>> should
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> be
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> treated
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> as master going forward. DO NOT use master or
> future
> > >>> > >> >> >> anymore.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Short version:
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> - I tried to merge future and master.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> - I couldn't because the history is a train wreck.
> > >>>The
> > >>> > >> >> >>> morbidly
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> curious
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> should see [2].
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> - Ian and I dug through the history, and played
> CSI
> > >>> until
> > >>> > >>we
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> figured
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> out
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> what had happened, and found a sensible way to
> > >>> > >>reconstruct a
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> sane
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> master
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> branch.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> - This branch merged fairly neatly with future.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> - It is now committed as the new branch master2.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> - The original master branch is deprecated.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> - I have filed an INFRA ticket[1] to get them to
> > >>>point
> > >>> > >>HEAD
> > >>> > >> >> >> at
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> master2,
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> and
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> delete the old master branch.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> - Use master2 from now on. DO NOT touch the old
> > >>>master
> > >>> or
> > >>> > >> >> >>> future
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> branches
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> anymore.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> I'll keep the list updated on the state of the
> INFRA
> > >>> > >>ticket.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Braden
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6302
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> [2] Long version:
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> A long time ago, I forked cli's master to create
> > >>> future. I
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> committed
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> a
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> half-dozen changes or so. Sometime later, a 2.7.x
> > >>> branch
> > >>> > >>was
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> forked
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> /from
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> future/. Several changes were made here. Later it
> > >>>was
> > >>> > >>merged
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> back
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> in,
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> /to
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> master/. The same changes were later rebased onto
> > >>> master
> > >>> > >>and
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> committed
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> again, duplicating them. Then this branch was
> merged
> > >>> with
> > >>> > >> >> >>> master
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> again,
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> creating a /third/ copy of the changes originally
> > >>>from
> > >>> > >>this
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> 2.7.x
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> branch.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, some of the changes from future were
> > >>> reverted
> > >>> > >>by
> > >>> > >> >> >>> hand
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> (as
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> opposed to with git revert) in master.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Finally some new changes were made to future and
> > >>> master.
> > >>> > >>It
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> looks,
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> according to git, like there are only these
> changes
> > >>>on
> > >>> the
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> future
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> branch,
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> since the earlier ones were merged by accident
> some
> > >>> time
> > >>> > >> >> >> ago.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> When I came along and tried to merge master and
> > >>>future
> > >>> in
> > >>> > >> >> >>> either
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> direction,
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> or rebase in either direction, those older future
> > >>> changes
> > >>> > >> >> >>> stayed
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> deleted,
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> because according to git they were made on the
> same
> > >>> > >>branch.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Moral of the story: Don't take a branch off master
> > >>> (like
> > >>> > >> >> >>>> future),
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>> fork
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> it,
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> commit to it, and then merge it back to master.
> > >>>That's
> > >>> > >>what
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> started
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> most
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> of
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> the insanity, because now future is partially
> merged
> > >>> into
> > >>> > >> >> >>> master
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>> even
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> though it's not being treated that way.
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> > >> >> >>>>>>>>>> I need a drink.
> > >>> > >> >> >>
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >> >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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