Well, hold on, mailing list is totally a valid place for discussion! The issue tracker is where stuff thats been agreed upon should happen. That said, I think we agree we'd like a path for project generation.
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: > Agree with Shaz, most of these thoughts already addressed in that bug. > Please add further opinions about specifics there. > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Might be worth chiming in on the CB-4153 thread on this ML ("app" folder >> concept) >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: >> >> > In an earlier incarnation of Cordova the CLI had a a --recipe flag. That >> > could be modified to accept a path or a Git repo. This would retain the >> > existing and fulfill Ray's use case. >> > >> > Thoughts? >> > On Jul 12, 2013 7:34 AM, "Lucas Holmquist" <lholm...@redhat.com> wrote: >> > >> > > +1 to keeping the default template, but the ability to change it if >> you >> > > want to >> > > On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Carlos I think that is essentially what others have proposed here - >> > > specify >> > > > a template to use. >> > > > >> > > > Personally I like the default project to still be the default, if >> only >> > > for >> > > > the majority of our users who are not more experienced programmers. >> > More >> > > > experienced programmers will not be put off by specifying a template >> > > option >> > > > for a blank template, IMO (but for less experienced people, I contend >> > it >> > > is >> > > > the reverse). >> > > > >> > > > While helping users troubleshoot in the Google Groups, or >> investigating >> > > > bugs in JIRA, I often tell a user to create a new project (thus using >> > the >> > > > default template) and isolate their bug there, so we have a common >> base >> > > to >> > > > verify and test bugs. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Carlos Santana < >> csantan...@gmail.com >> > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> can it be an option to the cordova cli? >> > > >> cordova create [--noHelloApp] >> > > >> or >> > > >> cordova create [--blankIndexHTML] >> > > >> >> > > >> You get the point >> > > >> >> > > >> I vote for default to have defaultApp included. >> > > >> It provides gratification of every "Hello World" gives when starting >> > > with >> > > >> something new. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Michael Jackson < >> > mjijack...@gmail.com >> > > >>> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >>> I really like the default app. As a brand new cordova dev it helped >> > me >> > > >>> understand how to get started with it. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> -- >> > > >>> Michael Jackson >> > > >>> @mjackson >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Ray Camden <rayca...@adobe.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> I can add this as a Jira item if it makes sense, but, what do >> folks >> > > >> think >> > > >>>> about the following: >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> I'd like to propose that the 'default' PG app created by the CLI >> be >> > > >>>> changed. Right now it is cool. Looks neat. But is completely >> > > >> unnecessary >> > > >>>> after you've after learned how to use PG. It's a great example for >> > > >> folks >> > > >>>> learning PG, but for those of us who know and just want to get >> > started >> > > >>>> quickly, it actually takes me more time to *remove* the HTML, CSS, >> > and >> > > >> JS >> > > >>>> used in the default then it does to create a new project. Not to >> be >> > > >> over >> > > >>>> dramatic, but it really is the worst part of the process for me. >> > Then >> > > >>>> again, I tend to make quite a few POCs with the CLI so this issue >> > hits >> > > >> me >> > > >>>> more often than normal probably. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> I know the CLI is just copying a template (I've blogged on this >> > > >> before), >> > > >>>> but shouldn't the default be something better for developers? >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> -- >> > > >> Carlos Santana >> > > >> <csantan...@gmail.com> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >>