My responses are inline
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Mike Billau <mike.bil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi. I ended up skipping my Spanish class and signing onto the Youtube > broadcast. I took some longer note, feel free to skim through: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IVyfFZ-kCIkg1Cnftxfm3viXHpxpJ2zdVa8B1CK0qU0/(Was > going to paste them but they turned out a lot longer than I > remembered...) > > I wanted to summarize the few unresolved issues from the hangout: > > 1. We agreed to publish the snapshot of which plugins were tested at > which cadence release. Where are we going to publish this? Will it be part > of some .json file? > - What about just tagging the plugin repos? > >From my understanding, this will be apart of the release blog post we do. > > 2. Did not really figure out the problem with core and non core > plugins, how much support to offer, and where to do issue tracking. > - Seems like plugin authors should solve this > - For our plugins, We can use Github issue tracking > - Expecting email about this > Our plugin issue tracking will still be on jira. Only the websql plugin might move because we don't want to maintain it due to various reasons. > 3. Registry issues > - Encourage 3rd party registries or not? > - Just going to doc the registry for now and later when it's ready > do more announcing and doc'ing > Our registry is going to get rewritten over the next few weeks to include a lot of the changes we discussed (stats, readme for plugins, repo, issue tracker). Someone interested in dealing with 3rd party registries can comment about that part. > > 4. Doc issues > - Didn't talk about doc migration but need to > - Not sure how docs will be released but currently it's a bad > process > - Mike Seirra recently wrote up some doc milestones and planning, > maybe we should discuss on that thread > Michael Brooks will be back from Vacation next week. He can discuss the doc refactor if he is still interested in leading it. > Sorry I missed you guys yesterday! > > Mike Billau > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org> > wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> > wrote: > > > > > My Short notes from meeting, longer emails to follow about some of > these > > > topics: > > > > > > ================================ > > > > > > CI/Medic brief description > > > > > > > > > Summarize Mike's CordovaTests prototype > > > > > > -- Looks good, but do we support plugin.xml <mode>? > > > > > > -- Jesse's alternative: test/ folder to have a plugin.xml that > <depends> > > > on top level, installed optionally > > > > > > > > > Plugin download counts, yay! > > > > > > -- How to filter out contributor download counts? Repeat download > > counts? > > > > > > -- What about system cookies curl-style, or some other system > > > fingerprinting to plugman? > > > > > > > > > 2.9.x (and 3.2?) > > > > > > -- 2.9.1 and 2.9.2 etc will be released on cadence schedule > > > > > > -- Steven is starting the 3.2 release next week > > > > > I think 2.9.1 is next week. And 3.2 whenever we get that done. > > > > > -- We continue to release monthly for now, even if very little work on > > > platforms. Try to make the flow fast enough to not be a pain > > > > > > > > > Plugin dependancies versions > > > > > > -- How to know which plugin versions tested? (Braden's "info" command) > > > > > > -- how to make non backwards compatible changes? > > > > > > -- can't depend on specific version because we cannot install more than > > > one plugin-version > > > > > > -- perhaps always use "latest" supported, but then plugins can't update > > > MAJOR outside of CadVer updates? > > > > > > > > > Splitting cordova-cli into cordova-lib > > > > > > -- SemVer and CadVer for downstream > > > > > > -- mobile-chrome-apps would like this, and Jeffrey Heifetz says BB is > > > interested (phonegap-cli likely too) > > > > > > -- Andrew to email about exactly what he means > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org > > >wrote: > > > > > >> And here's the viewing link! > > >> > > >> http://youtu.be/X3bUWVHeJJ0 > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Also, if you're having trouble connecting, I'll be on IRC. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Andrew Grieve < > agri...@chromium.org > > >> >wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Okay, for those who want to be able to talk: > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/a8df1213897c69821d177842af7d2bfbf948ef2b > > >> >> > > >> >> I'll post the viewing link closer to 5:30 > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >>> I meant that we'll be using my laptop here in Vancouver at the > Regus > > >> >>> space. Who is hosting the hangout? > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> >>> > So, can I get an invite to the hangout? I'll be hosting it from > > the > > >> >>> > Regus space in Vancouver. > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Michal Mocny < > > mmo...@chromium.org> > > >> >>> wrote: > > >> >>> >> EST. > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM, purplecabbage < > > >> >>> purplecabb...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >>> What time zone is this 5:30 PM occurring in? It was implied > > >> earlier > > >> >>> that > > >> >>> >>> this was EST, but not absolutely stated. > > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone > > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> > On Oct 17, 2013, at 7:39 AM, Michal Mocny < > > mmo...@chromium.org> > > >> >>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> > > > >> >>> >>> > I don't know that the invite list was super useful last > time. > > >> >>> >>> > > > >> >>> >>> > We will post the URL to the public stream here at 5:30 and > > post > > >> >>> >>> > instructions on how to join the stream for those who want to > > >> >>> speak. Once > > >> >>> >>> > again we will be limited to 10, so please use the > viewing-only > > >> >>> option if > > >> >>> >>> > you can. > > >> >>> >>> > > > >> >>> >>> > -Michal > > >> >>> >>> > > > >> >>> >>> > > > >> >>> >>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Lucas Holmquist < > > >> >>> lholm...@redhat.com > > >> >>> >>> >wrote: > > >> >>> >>> > > > >> >>> >>> >> Nope, just wondering if there was a sign up sheet like > last > > >> >>> time, i > > >> >>> >>> >> didn't see one other than the doodle about the times > > >> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Michal Mocny < > > >> mmo...@chromium.org> > > >> >>> >>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> >>> Yes, is that a concern? > > >> >>> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Lucas Holmquist < > > >> >>> lholm...@redhat.com > > >> >>> >>> >>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>> will this also be a hangout like last time > > >> >>> >>> >>>>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Michal Mocny < > > >> >>> mmo...@chromium.org> > > >> >>> >>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>> Reminder, this is today. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:11 PM, James Jong < > > >> >>> wjamesj...@gmail.com> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> - Latest updates / strategic direction on medic & CI > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> -James Jong > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> On Oct 15, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Andrew Grieve < > > >> >>> agri...@chromium.org> > > >> >>> >>> >>>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> This is coming up this Thursday! What do people want > to > > >> talk > > >> >>> about? > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> Here's > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> a couple to get us going: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> - Plugin registry download counts (Are these available > > >> yet) > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> - Idea: Split cordova-cli-lib from cordova-cli on NPM > > >> (have > > >> >>> >>> >> cordova-cli > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> and > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> phonegap-cli depend on cordova-cli-lib) > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> - Michal's work on CDVTest > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Michal Mocny < > > >> >>> mmo...@google.com> > > >> >>> >>> >>>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> Alright, Looks like Thu 17 is the clear winner, with > > not > > >> a > > >> >>> single > > >> >>> >>> >>>> person > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> having any complaints about that time. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> Brian cannot make it until 6pm EST, but I'm going to > > >> >>> schedule > > >> >>> >>> start > > >> >>> >>> >>>> time > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> for 5:30 for the inevitable hiccups and introductions > > and > > >> >>> any > > >> >>> >>> agenda > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> overview etc. It will very likely be 6pm before we > get > > >> >>> into the > > >> >>> >>> >> thick > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> of > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> things. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> We will send out exact details on this thread the day > > of, > > >> >>> See you > > >> >>> >>> >> all > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> then. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> -Michal > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Michal Mocny < > > >> >>> mmo...@google.com> > > >> >>> >>> >>>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Okay, options are updated for the poll ( > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/2pmy2ptafmxsrna2 > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> ) > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> For those who filled it out, sorry, you will need to > > do > > >> it > > >> >>> again. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Michal Mocny < > > >> >>> mmo...@google.com> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Ugh Sorry that was a misreading of course. I'll set > > up > > >> a > > >> >>> new > > >> >>> >>> >> doodle > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> tomorrow morning. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2013-10-06 1:52 AM, "Tommy Williams" < > > >> >>> to...@devgeeks.org> > > >> >>> >>> >> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 for post 16th for Joe availability. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, thanks for thinking of Australia... One > > benefit > > >> of > > >> >>> the > > >> >>> >>> time > > >> >>> >>> >>>> of > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> year, > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> the nasty time difference just got an hour better > > >> >>> today... > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> - tommy > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Oct 2013 08:33, "Jesse" < > > >> purplecabb...@gmail.com> > > >> >>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I filled it out, however, Joe is not available > > until > > >> >>> after the > > >> >>> >>> >>>> 15th. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> we should aim for the 16-18th as a window. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> @purplecabbage > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> risingj.com > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Michal Mocny < > > >> >>> >>> >> mmo...@chromium.org > > >> >>> >>> >>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.doodle.com/2pmy2ptafmxsrna2 > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I put a lot of options for time (sorry) since I > > >> wasn't > > >> >>> sure > > >> >>> >>> if > > >> >>> >>> >> we > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> should > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> be > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> europe or australia friendly this time. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are also three options this time: yes, > > (yes), > > >> >>> no, where > > >> >>> >>> >> the > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> middle > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> option is supposed to be a "prefer not, but if > > need > > >> >>> be, fine" > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michal > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Michal Mocny < > > >> >>> >>> >>>> mmo...@chromium.org> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11-15 sounds like the range to shoot for. I'll > > set > > >> >>> up a > > >> >>> >>> >>>> doodle.. > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Joe Bowser < > > >> >>> >>> bows...@gmail.com > > >> >>> >>> >>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm unavailable until after the 15th. I'll be > at > > >> Big > > >> >>> >>> Android > > >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> BBQ. > > >> >>> >>> >> > > >> >>> >>> >> > > >> >>> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
