Thanks Michal. You answered my questions. More to elaborate on my question: I am testing amazon-fireos port(platform) with all plug-ins using mobile-spec. I am seeing some failures in 3.1.0 version because of test cases timing out. I am pretty new to cordova and still in learning phase. :) I am trying to understand these failures. Interestingly they pass on 3.0.x version.
Archana From: Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org>> Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:27 AM To: "Naik, Archana" <na...@lab126.com<mailto:na...@lab126.com>> Cc: "dev@cordova.apache.org<mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org>" <dev@cordova.apache.org<mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org>>, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org>> Subject: Re: mobile-spec and releases: How do we test? May you clarify? Right now, there is no formal way to test plugins, we are trying to invent that way now. Check out cordova-labs repo's cdvtest branch for a sample app & plugin to track progress. Jasmine is hosted in that sample app, but plugins will not directly know/care. Any testing framework which is api-compatible should work. In practice, I'm not sure how compatible they all are, so it may very well be limited to jasmine -- but it does mean you can make local modifications such as our CI is doing to create a custom test reporter. -Michal On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Naik, Archana <na...@lab126.com<mailto:na...@lab126.com>> wrote: Hi, Guys While on this topic, I have a question: how do I test individual plug-in? Where is the this jasmine version specified? Thanks Archana On 10/30/13 7:26 AM, "Michal Mocny" <mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org>> wrote: >Here are some links to jasmine-2 docs since its a hard time finding them: > >http://jasmine.github.io/2.0/introduction.html > >https://github.com/pivotal/jasmine/blob/master/release_notes/20rc5.md > > >On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Michal Mocny ><mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org>> >wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Bryan Higgins >><br...@bryanhiggins.net<mailto:br...@bryanhiggins.net>>wrote: >> >>> I just converted geolocation to the new test style [1] >>> >>> I'm happy with the process overall, and I find the jasmine 2 tests are >>> more >>> succinct. >>> >>> There are a few things worth noting: >>> - I kept the eval code in. At google today, it was discussed that this >>>may >>> not be the best approach. >>> - Jasmine 2: You must hit at least one expect statement or the test >>>will >>> timeout even though done was called. >>> >> >> We could file a bug (I ran into it during setup once too), but really, >> what is the worth of a test if there are no expect clauses? >> >> >>> - I did not remove the manual test page [2]. It would be great if we >>>had a >>> convention for importing these. (ie test harness looks for a page at >>> www/test/plugin-id.html and adds a link to it if it exists) >>> >> >> I'm going to work on a solution for this today. The thought is that the >> plugin has a single module that can define all auto/manual tests, and >>the >> test-harness choses which to display where. >> >> >>> >>> [1] >>> >>> >>>https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-plugin-geolocation.git >>>;a=commit;h=075850a460d8171a04809cf6317fb4c4ef998603 >>> [2] >>> >>> >>>https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cordova-plugin-geolocation.git >>>;a=blob;f=test/manual.html;h=6ec2eed03e18c2efaa8710094d60930bb32227ba;hb >>>=459a01c888801e8dfa2a688d25483bb48c46d8e2 >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:50 PM, David Kemp >>> <drk...@chromium.org<mailto:drk...@chromium.org>> >>>wrote: >>> >>> > In spite of that fact that it needs a tooling change, I like the >>>added >>> > <mode> tag / prepare steps. >>> > The tooling change should be small and it means no runtime impact on >>> apps. >>> > >>> > I love the approach - a very positive step to cleaning up testing. >>> > >>> > David Kemp >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Michal Mocny >>> > <mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org>> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > Braden, you're right, good catch. >>> > > >>> > > Discussing locally how we could support "prepare --mode=..." in the >>> most >>> > > generalized form, we remembered an old suggestion to just support >>> <mode> >>> > > tags. >>> > > >>> > > The benefits seem to be: >>> > > - No need to add custom tag-prefix/attributes for the combinations >>>of >>> > > js-module mode=, asset mode=, etc etc >>> > > - More visually apparent when reading a plugin.xml file, akin to >>> > > <platforms> tag >>> > > >>> > > The drawbacks seem to be: >>> > > - Not all descendant tags are easy to support for a given mode (ie, >>> > > <dependency>) >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Summarizing the options currently discussed in this thread: >>> > > >>> > > - new <js-test-module> tag. Not general enough solution to support >>> tests >>> > > bundling <assets>, so -1 from me for this reason. >>> > > - mode="..." attribute for a set of whitelisted tags (<js-module>, >>> > <asset>, >>> > > ...) >>> > > - <mode name="..."> tag for a set of whitelisted descendant >>> > > tags (<js-module>, <asset>, ...) >>> > > >>> > > The last two options are really functionally equivalent, but given >>> that >>> > we >>> > > opted for <platform> tag instead of attribute, I'm also favoring a >>> <mode> >>> > > tag. >>> > > >>> > > -Michal >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Braden Shepherdson < >>> > bra...@chromium.org<mailto:bra...@chromium.org> >>> > > >wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > It's not true that adding these tests only creates larger >>>binaries. >>> > They >>> > > > will be fetched and parsed by the plugin loader code at app >>>startup >>> > time. >>> > > > It goes through the list of all plugins in cordova_plugins.js and >>> loads >>> > > > them all. That parses them, and runs the outermost layer, which >>>is >>> the >>> > > > wrapping function function(require, module, exports) { ... }. So >>> there >>> > is >>> > > > still runtime memory and CPU impact. >>> > > > >>> > > > I support <js-test-module> tags or <js-module ... test> or >>>whatever. >>> > > > Similarly, prepare for tests. I realize we want to avoid tooling >>> > support, >>> > > > but I think tooling support is a lesser evil than production >>> > performance >>> > > > impact. >>> > > > >>> > > > Overall approach makes me happy. >>> > > > >>> > > > Braden >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Michal Mocny >>><mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org>> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Andrew Grieve < >>> agri...@chromium.org<mailto:agri...@chromium.org>> >>> > > >> wrote: >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > The eval of the jasmine interface deserves mention. Is the >>> > motivation >>> > > >> > there that tests can choose to use another testing framework? >>> That's >>> > > why >>> > > >> > you don't just make jasmine functions globals? >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> >>> > > >> I was hoping the plugins would need to depend on anything but >>> CDVTest, >>> > > and >>> > > >> not expect any globals. I guess, though, that CDVTest still >>> expects >>> > the >>> > > >> app to provide to a test framework and some other stuff, so in >>>the >>> end >>> > > its >>> > > >> no different. I was hedging on being able to update CDVTest in >>>the >>> > > future >>> > > >> for whatever we need, and all 3rdparty plugins would not need >>> > updating. >>> > > >> eval() could be used to do all sorts of clever things if we >>> needed.. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > One nit pick just from reading your email is that this will >>>cause >>> > the >>> > > >> test >>> > > >> > js-modules to be injected into apps that use the plugins. I >>>think >>> > > >> probably >>> > > >> > we will want to update the tools to recognize a >>> <js-test-module>. We >>> > > >> > *could* work around it by adding the tests to new plugins that >>> > depend >>> > > on >>> > > >> > the thing they are testing, but I think changing the tools >>>would >>> be >>> > > >> nicer. >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> >>> > > >> I also mentioned splitting tests into second plugin but thats >>> overkill >>> > > >> except in extreme circumstances. Note that the tests aren't >>> actually >>> > > >> loaded unless you require them, so its just a matter of larger >>> > binaries >>> > > >> which could be filtered out manually. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> My person preference would be to support conditional build >>>types, >>> > which >>> > > >> have come up before. ie, cordova prepare debug, cordova prepare >>> > > release, >>> > > >> cordova prepare test -- and plugin.xml could specify a different >>> set >>> > of >>> > > >> js-module for either. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> A specific <js-test-module> would be fine, but isnt "0 new >>> tooling". >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Also, I forgot to mention, but we do need to add support for >>> getting >>> > the >>> > > >> full list of plugins installed, which should be trivial to add >>>to >>> > > >> modulemapper (maybe there is already a way to reach in, but I >>> don't >>> > > think >>> > > >> we have a documented api for it). >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > Another nit is that it would be nice if the CordovaTests app >>> didn't >>> > > >> depend >>> > > >> > on any plugins. e.g., don't have it depend on device plugin. >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> >>> > > >> CordovaTests doesn't explicitly depend on device plugin, except >>> that >>> > at >>> > > >> the >>> > > >> moment I have it printing the same info that MobileSpec does at >>> > startup. >>> > > >> This could be wrapped in a try{}catch in case the require >>>fails, >>> but >>> > > its >>> > > >> good info to have in the common case. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > Overall, really like the approach! >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Thanks! >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Michal Mocny < >>> mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org>> >>> > > >> wrote: >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> >> TLDR; I've implemented a plugin testing strategy that >>>requires 0 >>> > new >>> > > >> >> tooling features, can support non-core plugins, and hopefully >>> even >>> > > >> support >>> > > >> >> a variety of methods for running/reporting the test results. >>> Super >>> > > >> alpha >>> > > >> >> preview, but take a look if you like the direction! >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> NEW: CDVTest Plugin: https://github.com/mmocny/CDVTest >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> NEW: CordovaTest App: https://github.com/mmocny/CordovaTests >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> UPDATED: Converted three existing plugins to this "new >>>style". >>> > Code >>> > > >> is on >>> > > >> >> feature branches of respective repos (cdvtest branch): >>> > > >> >> org.apache.cordova.device >>> > > >> >> org.apache.cordova.device-motion >>> > > >> >> org.chromium.storage >>> > > >> >> (must clone locally, switch to branch, and plugin add from >>>local >>> > > path) >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> Now, any plugin that wants to join in on the fun needs to >>> provide a >>> > > >> >> <js-module >>> > > >> >> src="..." name="test" /> and use this template: >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> exports.init = function() { >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> >>>eval(require('org.apache.cordova.test.test').injectJasmineInterface(this >>>, >>> > > >> >> 'this')); >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> // TESTS GO HERE >>> > > >> >> describe(..., function() { >>> > > >> >> it(...); >>> > > >> >> }); >>> > > >> >> }; >>> > > >> >> (The eval is optional but super useful; it will inject the >>> jasmine >>> > > >> >> interface into your scope, so you don't have to type >>> > > jasmine.describe, >>> > > >> >> jasmine.it<http://jasmine.it>, etc. Not sure of any cleaner way >>> > > >> >> to do this.) >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> STEPS: >>> > > >> >> 1. create a new cordova project >>> > > >> >> 2. import the CordovaTest app into your www >>> > > >> >> 3. add any or all of the above plugins >>> > > >> >> 4. give it a run, and try out the auto tests (all pass on >>>ipad, >>> > some >>> > > >> still >>> > > >> >> fail on android) >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> Lots of work left to do, but hopefully good enough to whet >>>your >>> > > >> appetite. >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> One thing to note, I've attempted to make CDVTest and plugin >>> tests >>> > > >> unaware >>> > > >> >> of the specific jasmine version the app is hosting (so that >>>it >>> can >>> > be >>> > > >> >> swapped without changing all plugins), but it must support >>>the >>> new >>> > > >> style >>> > > >> >> interface for async tests (ie, accept a done callback). >>>This is >>> > the >>> > > >> style >>> > > >> >> that node-jasmine uses, mocha uses, and jasmine-2.0 is going >>>to >>> use >>> > > >> (I'm >>> > > >> >> using jasmine 2.0 rc3). This means that core plugin tests >>> require >>> > > some >>> > > >> >> code transformations, but the net effect is cleaner tests and >>> more >>> > > >> common >>> > > >> >> style with our node tools' tests. >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> Manual tests are not implemented yet. >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> -Michal >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Michal Mocny < >>> > mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org>> >>> > > >> >> wrote: >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> > I'm throwing something together right now, actually. I'll >>> post >>> > my >>> > > >> >> current >>> > > >> >> > progress today so you can take a look. >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Brian LeRoux >>> > > >> >> > <b...@brian.io<mailto:b...@brian.io>> >>> > wrote: >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> >> Sorry keep meaning to respond. I like Michal's first step >>>but >>> > > >> growing >>> > > >> >> to a >>> > > >> >> >> full suite of tools. Are you currently tackling this >>>Braden? >>> I >>> > > feel >>> > > >> >> like >>> > > >> >> >> it >>> > > >> >> >> is related to the Medic stuff and maybe we should throw >>>one >>> of >>> > our >>> > > >> >> guys on >>> > > >> >> >> the problem fully. >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> On Sep 27, 2013 5:10 PM, "Braden Shepherdson" < >>> > > bra...@chromium.org<mailto:bra...@chromium.org>> >>> > > >> >> >> wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> >> > Which one? >>> > > >> >> >> > >>> > > >> >> >> > >>> > > >> >> >> > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Brian LeRoux >>><b...@brian.io<mailto:b...@brian.io> >>> > >>> > > >> wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > >>> > > >> >> >> > > I really like your proposal as a starting point. Very >>> simple >>> > > but >>> > > >> >> would >>> > > >> >> >> > > allow for in-app testing as well as on the cmd line if >>> we so >>> > > >> wish. >>> > > >> >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Michal Mocny < >>> > > >> mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org> >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> >> > wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > I was looking over some old emails from this list on >>> > plugin >>> > > >> >> testing, >>> > > >> >> >> > and >>> > > >> >> >> > > an >>> > > >> >> >> > > > idea that was proposed way back was to ship plugin >>> tests >>> > as >>> > > a >>> > > >> >> second >>> > > >> >> >> > > > plugin. That way, you can chose to install tests, >>>or >>> not, >>> > > and >>> > > >> >> know >>> > > >> >> >> > > > explicitly if they are being copied into your final >>> > project. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > An alternative would be to support build targets a >>>la >>> > > >> >> >> "release/debug" >>> > > >> >> >> > and >>> > > >> >> >> > > > have target-specific plugin.xml tags (assets, >>> js-modules, >>> > > >> >> >> > source-file..). >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > -Michal >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:52 AM, Brian LeRoux < >>> b...@brian.io<mailto:b...@brian.io> >>> > > >>> > > >> >> wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > I think this is basically what we've been >>>proposing >>> for >>> > a >>> > > >> while >>> > > >> >> >> now. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Michal Mocny < >>> > > >> >> >> mmo...@chromium.org<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org>> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > I would suggest perhaps a simpler approach, >>>which >>> > > doesn't >>> > > >> add >>> > > >> >> >> > > anything >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > new >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > to cordova-cli/plugman: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > - Each plugin ships with a "tests" js-module, >>>and >>> we >>> > > >> >> document a >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > convention >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > of where they should live, and what signature it >>> > should >>> > > >> have >>> > > >> >> >> (i.e., >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > >>>cordova.require('plugin.name.Tests').forEach(...) >>> ). >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > - Will need a common way to describe/report >>> results >>> > > >> (others >>> > > >> >> >> have >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > mentioned TAP). >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > - Any app is free to run those plugin tests in >>>any >>> > which >>> > > >> way, >>> > > >> >> >> but >>> > > >> >> >> > we >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > ship a >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > mobile-spec app which is one opinionated way to >>>do >>> so. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > - It attempts to require the test module for >>>each >>> > > >> installed >>> > > >> >> >> > plugin, >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > runs >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > them, and aggregates results. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > - It could report results to some shared >>>server, >>> > allow >>> > > >> >> >> toggling >>> > > >> >> >> > of >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > tests, >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > etc, but no plugin should know or care about >>>those >>> > > >> features. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > Using that as a generic base: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > - We ship a "CDVTests" (or whatever) plugin >>>which >>> has >>> > a >>> > > >> >> bunch of >>> > > >> >> >> > > > library >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > code for creating tests, and plugins can use it >>>to >>> > > >> register >>> > > >> >> >> their >>> > > >> >> >> > > > tests. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > - This makes it easier to register manual tests >>>in >>> a >>> > > >> common >>> > > >> >> >> format >>> > > >> >> >> > > for >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > core >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > plugins, and prevents code duplication for core >>> auto >>> > > >> tests. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > - External plugins can chose to use our testing >>> > library, >>> > > >> or >>> > > >> >> not. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > -Michal >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Braden >>> Shepherdson < >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > bra...@chromium.org<mailto:bra...@chromium.org> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > >wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Here's an off-the-top-of-my-head sketch of >>>how we >>> > > might >>> > > >> do >>> > > >> >> >> > Voltron >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > tests: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > - Add a tag to plugin.xml that names each test >>> file: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > <test type="automatic" src="spec/foo.js" >>> > name="Foo >>> > > >> >> >> Automated" >>> > > >> >> >> > > /> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > <test type="manual" src="spec/bar.js" >>> name="Foo >>> > > >> >> Manual" /> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > - Add a new command, cordova test (maybe >>> > > prepare-test), >>> > > >> >> that: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > - Ignores the top-level www. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > - Instead copies in a basic testing >>> index.html >>> > > >> similar >>> > > >> >> to >>> > > >> >> >> the >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > current >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > mobile-spec's >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > - That index reads a file akin to >>> > > cordova_plugins.js >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > (cordova_tests.js, >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > maybe?) generated by the CLI, containing the >>>info >>> > from >>> > > >> the >>> > > >> >> >> <test> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > tags. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > - It has navigation similar to the current >>> > > >> mobile-spec, >>> > > >> >> >> with >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > buttons >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > for the automatic and manual sections. Auto >>>has >>> > "All" >>> > > >> and >>> > > >> >> then >>> > > >> >> >> > each >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > module, >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > manual just has the list of modules. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Thoughts? >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Braden >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Carlos >>>Santana < >>> > > >> >> >> > > > csantan...@gmail.com<mailto:csantan...@gmail.com> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > I like the idea can we call mobilespec now >>> > > >> >> cordova-voltron >>> > > >> >> >> and >>> > > >> >> >> > be >>> > > >> >> >> > > > DRY >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > and >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > use the tests form the plugins. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > Voltron by itself creates an App that tests >>> only >>> > > core, >>> > > >> >> but >>> > > >> >> >> as >>> > > >> >> >> > you >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > use plugman to add plugins to voltron it has >>> more >>> > > test >>> > > >> >> >> cases. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > It would not be a bad idea to enhance >>> plugin.xml >>> > in >>> > > >> the >>> > > >> >> >> future >>> > > >> >> >> > to >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > include >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > information about testing (i.e. Directory >>> > containing >>> > > >> >> tests >>> > > >> >> >> > files, >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > test >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > command, etc..) >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > --Carlos >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > On Thursday, September 26, 2013, Anis KADRI >>> wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > What's the challenge of having us use the >>> tests >>> > > that >>> > > >> >> come >>> > > >> >> >> > with >>> > > >> >> >> > > > the >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > individual plugins ? >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:13 AM, David >>>Kemp < >>> > > >> >> >> > drk...@google.com<mailto:drk...@google.com> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > <javascript:;>> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > Currently, the automated test system >>>that >>> we >>> > > have >>> > > >> >> >> running >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > (derived >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > from >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > Medic) uses only the mobilespec tests. >>>It >>> does >>> > > not >>> > > >> >> yet >>> > > >> >> >> use >>> > > >> >> >> > > > tests >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > collected >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > from the plugins. Its been talked about, >>> but >>> > not >>> > > >> gone >>> > > >> >> >> > > anywhere. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > David Kemp >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Jesse < >>> > > >> >> >> > > > purplecabb...@gmail.com<mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > <javascript:;>> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> Yeah, I have pushed some changes to >>> > > mobile-spec, >>> > > >> and >>> > > >> >> >> when >>> > > >> >> >> > I >>> > > >> >> >> > > > did >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > I >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > also >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> copied the tests into the plugin >>>involved. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> Until we get the magic test runner >>> > happening, I >>> > > >> >> think >>> > > >> >> >> we >>> > > >> >> >> > > just >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > keep >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> duplicating. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> @purplecabbage >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> risingj.com<http://risingj.com> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Steven >>> Gill >>> > < >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > stevengil...@gmail.com<mailto:stevengil...@gmail.com> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > <javascript:;> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > We copied over tests into plugins >>>when >>> we >>> > > first >>> > > >> >> broke >>> > > >> >> >> > them >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > out, >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > but >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > I >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> don't >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > believe they have been updated. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > I would say for now to just add the >>> tests >>> > to >>> > > >> >> mobile >>> > > >> >> >> > spec, >>> > > >> >> >> > > > and >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > possibly in >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > the future we go all voltron to build >>> > mobile >>> > > >> spec >>> > > >> >> and >>> > > >> >> >> > keep >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > tests >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > with >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> their >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > corresponding plugins. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Joe >>> > Bowser < >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > bows...@gmail.com<mailto:bows...@gmail.com> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > <javascript:;>> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > wrote: >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Hey >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Right now, I'm working on a weird >>>file >>> > > issue >>> > > >> >> that >>> > > >> >> >> > > requires >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > me >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > to >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > update mobile-spec, but I'm >>>wondering >>> > where >>> > > >> the >>> > > >> >> >> tests >>> > > >> >> >> > > > should >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > live. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Should it all keep living in >>> mobile-spec, >>> > > or >>> > > >> is >>> > > >> >> it >>> > > >> >> >> > with >>> > > >> >> >> > > > the >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > plugins. >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > And if it's with the plugins, will >>> there >>> > be >>> > > >> >> >> scripts to >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > assemble >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > mobile-spec all Voltron style? >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > This came up earlier, but I haven't >>> found >>> > > any >>> > > >> >> fix >>> > > >> >> >> that >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > needed >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > a >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > mobile-spec test. (Many that need >>> native >>> > > >> >> testing, >>> > > >> >> >> > like >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > recursive >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > file >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > copy, etc). Any thoughts? >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Joe >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > -- >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > Carlos Santana >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > <csantan...@gmail.com<mailto:csantan...@gmail.com>> >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > >>> > > >> >> >> > >>> > > >> >> >> >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> >> >>