no we just all responded at once.
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Braden Shepherdson <bra...@chromium.org> wrote: > Did everyone at Adobe SF just come out of a meeting and see this at once? > > Braden > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > >> So, specifically, you require ID and VERSION for runtime introspection? >> >> Why not just add that to <feature>? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Braden Shepherdson <bra...@chromium.org >> >wrote: >> >> > The <feature> tags list only those plugins which are relevant to the >> > bridge. Also they map from exec bridge name to native code class name, >> and >> > have no information about which plugin they're from, or that plugin's id >> or >> > version. >> > >> > As to multiple platforms, there are several reasons why I'm unlikely to >> add >> > this feature to platforms other than iOS or Android. First, I'm not set >> up >> > for development on any of the others. This is especially true of the ones >> > that can't be built on Mac, especially Windows (Phone). Second, I don't >> > know anything about developing on those platforms: I don't know the >> > libraries or tools (or C# for Windows et al). Third, what I'm ultimately >> > working on is getting the App Harness working nicely as a launcher and >> > testbed for mobile Chrome apps, which only support iOS and Android >> anyway. >> > >> > I agree the platforms should strive for consistency, but any new features >> > have to start somewhere. This is a pretty straightforward implementation, >> > and with my work on Android and iOS as a reference, it should be quick to >> > add to other platforms. >> > >> > Braden >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Adding this to iOS and Android only is kind of mean. What ends up >> > > happening is the high profile platforms (ie. the ones that get ALL the >> > > attention) get a new feature and the others 'appear' to be behind. I >> > think >> > > we should focus on remaining consistent to some degree, otherwise you >> end >> > > up just making more work for the other platform developers. >> > > >> > > This does not seem like it would be hard for you to implement on >> windows >> > > phone and blackberry as well, and having you spend a few minutes in >> those >> > > platforms would probably be a good thing anyway. >> > > >> > > I too am also not sure why the existing feature tag in config.xml is >> not >> > > enough. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > @purplecabbage >> > > risingj.com >> > > >> > > >> > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Gorkem Ercan <gorkem.er...@gmail.com >> > > >wrote: >> > > >> > > > Hey Braden, >> > > > Why is not the current <feature> tags sufficient for this? >> > > > -- >> > > > Gorkem >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Braden Shepherdson < >> > bra...@chromium.org >> > > > >wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Hey folks, >> > > > > >> > > > > We've been kicking around the idea of getting at which >> > plugins/versions >> > > > are >> > > > > installed, at runtime. In order to make that happen, I've taken the >> > > first >> > > > > step of having plugman prepare insert a tag into config.xml for >> each >> > > > > plugin. It will look like this: >> > > > > >> > > > > <plugins> >> > > > > <plugin id="org.apache.cordova.file" version="0.2.5" /> >> > > > > <plugin id="org.apache.cordova.file-transfer" version="0.3.4" /> >> > > > > </plugins> >> > > > > >> > > > > NB that Plugman is injecting this automatically, and this tag >> should >> > > NOT >> > > > > appear in the plugin.xml's <config-file> tags. >> > > > > >> > > > > Now I'll be adding logic to the config.xml parser on Android and >> iOS, >> > > but >> > > > > other platform maintainers will have to step in for the other >> > > platforms. >> > > > > >> > > > > Tracking the progress here: >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5379 >> > > > > >> > > > > (If you're wondering why we have motivation for this, it's to make >> > the >> > > > > AppHarness more informative, and more robust, by warning the user >> > when >> > > an >> > > > > app they've installed is looking for plugins the harness can't >> > provide, >> > > > or >> > > > > where versions mismatch.) >> > > > > >> > > > > Braden >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >>