no we just all responded at once.

On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Braden Shepherdson <bra...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Did everyone at Adobe SF just come out of a meeting and see this at once?
>
> Braden
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
>> So, specifically, you require ID and VERSION for runtime introspection?
>>
>> Why not just add that to <feature>?
>>
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>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Braden Shepherdson <bra...@chromium.org
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > The <feature> tags list only those plugins which are relevant to the
>> > bridge. Also they map from exec bridge name to native code class name,
>> and
>> > have no information about which plugin they're from, or that plugin's id
>> or
>> > version.
>> >
>> > As to multiple platforms, there are several reasons why I'm unlikely to
>> add
>> > this feature to platforms other than iOS or Android. First, I'm not set
>> up
>> > for development on any of the others. This is especially true of the ones
>> > that can't be built on Mac, especially Windows (Phone). Second, I don't
>> > know anything about developing on those platforms: I don't know the
>> > libraries or tools (or C# for Windows et al). Third, what I'm ultimately
>> > working on is getting the App Harness working nicely as a launcher and
>> > testbed for mobile Chrome apps, which only support iOS and Android
>> anyway.
>> >
>> > I agree the platforms should strive for consistency, but any new features
>> > have to start somewhere. This is a pretty straightforward implementation,
>> > and with my work on Android and iOS as a reference, it should be quick to
>> > add to other platforms.
>> >
>> > Braden
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Adding this to iOS and Android only is kind of mean.  What ends up
>> > > happening is the high profile platforms (ie. the ones that get ALL the
>> > > attention) get a new feature and the others 'appear' to be behind.  I
>> > think
>> > > we should focus on remaining consistent to some degree, otherwise you
>> end
>> > > up just making more work for the other platform developers.
>> > >
>> > > This does not seem like it would be hard for you to implement on
>> windows
>> > > phone and blackberry as well, and having you spend a few minutes in
>> those
>> > > platforms would probably be a good thing anyway.
>> > >
>> > > I too am also not sure why the existing feature tag in config.xml is
>> not
>> > > enough.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > @purplecabbage
>> > > risingj.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Gorkem Ercan <gorkem.er...@gmail.com
>> > > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hey Braden,
>> > > > Why is not the current <feature> tags sufficient for this?
>> > > > --
>> > > > Gorkem
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Braden Shepherdson <
>> > bra...@chromium.org
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hey folks,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We've been kicking around the idea of getting at which
>> > plugins/versions
>> > > > are
>> > > > > installed, at runtime. In order to make that happen, I've taken the
>> > > first
>> > > > > step of having plugman prepare insert a tag into config.xml for
>> each
>> > > > > plugin. It will look like this:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > <plugins>
>> > > > >   <plugin id="org.apache.cordova.file" version="0.2.5" />
>> > > > >   <plugin id="org.apache.cordova.file-transfer" version="0.3.4" />
>> > > > > </plugins>
>> > > > >
>> > > > > NB that Plugman is injecting this automatically, and this tag
>> should
>> > > NOT
>> > > > > appear in the plugin.xml's <config-file> tags.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Now I'll be adding logic to the config.xml parser on Android and
>> iOS,
>> > > but
>> > > > > other platform maintainers will have to step in for the other
>> > > platforms.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Tracking the progress here:
>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5379
>> > > > >
>> > > > > (If you're wondering why we have motivation for this, it's to make
>> > the
>> > > > > AppHarness more informative, and more robust, by warning the user
>> > when
>> > > an
>> > > > > app they've installed is looking for plugins the harness can't
>> > provide,
>> > > > or
>> > > > > where versions mismatch.)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Braden
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>

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