Thanks Michal, I have reposted the meeting notes to the wiki: https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/2014%20Kickoff%20Hangout
@purplecabbage risingj.com On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@google.com> wrote: > Monthly Hangout? > - Good idea, ML message to establish time > > SSL Cert Pinning. > - Android APIs are just not good enough? > - Andrew asked the Android WebView team if there was any way to do this > with existing WebView: no :( > - We can write a custom plugin to do one off special type of requests? > - Don't embed content? Network cannot reasonable be locked down. Welcome > to the web. > - Could add a bit more cert pinning to FileTransfer plugin if we wanted? > - Brian: Crazy alternative?! local web server proxy? > - Andrew: We used to do this in the bridge. Other bugs make this not > work. (Specific to 4.0?) > > Configuration files situation > - Too many files? > - We don't control the underlying O/S so we just inevitably have lots of > files > - Most of this is hidden to the user, though > - Some config for build (cordova-cli's config), some for runtime > (config.xml) > - Converting XML to JSON? > - Current tools are tightly coupled with XML config editing > - plugin.xml is already XML and we are *not* changing that > - cost/benefit smells un-worth-it > - CLI hooks can help manage the platform manifests for those who want -- > but its an expert friendly feature > - icons and splashscreens > - cca tool supports this now, Andrew has the caveats in his head > - Top level config.xml: > - Add support for <platform> and <config-file> tags to top-level app > config.xml? > - Rename top-level config.xml? > - json or xml? > - Brian: package.json? > - Will that conflict with node? Engine tag? Worth investigating. > - SysApps *new* json based app manifest? Way too early to chase that. > - JBoss tools use a single config.xml on all platforms > - Lets move proposals to the list. Going in circles here. > - Short term: lets take another looks at the docs to see what need to be > approved > - But if the right answer isn't apparent, no amount of docs will help > > Cordova.js refactoring > - Ditch our own module format? > - node package format with Browserify for concat? > - 44k vs 10k? > - Browser as a platform VS Ripple as a tool? > - Goal of this refactor is full backwards compatibility with browser > - Great idea. Plugin vendors can target the browser with a shim of > their plugin this way, instead of ripple devs reverse engineering. > - Require syntax is changing to node-style > - Anis using browserify with plugins' js-module editing of the require > statement in a preprocess step during prepare > - Final artifact is a single cordova.js > - moving cordova.js outside of root of www > > Testing and Medic > - Who is currently running CI > - Google in Canada > - Microsoft in Russia > - (Ubuntu in Russia as well? -- sorry I missed this) > - IBM has had it for a while, but fallen off the radar a bit (thought > they will recover that) > - Bits and pieces have changed. Need newest versions. > - CI to use less magic, use more cordova-cli commands > - Microsoft wants a way to report when the windows platform breaks > - Marcel wants a way to test on a huge suite of platforms and devices, > after testing on a small set of devices locally > - Buildbot is running medic in order to group sets of commits together > - Microsoft not running buildbot, just medic directly > - We ran in to issues with buildbot on !linux as well. You can run BB > master on linux and have all build slaves on other platforms, even in a VM. > - Biggest issue is that the test suite crashes hard and CI needs poking > if tests fail (sometimes) > - No shared master at this point for security reasons. (Adobe and Google > and Apache have not followed through with hopes of supplying a common > machine for this, yet) > - Instead, lets work on a common reporting mechanism. > - Right now: manually emailing the list when you notice something > locally. You should do this too if you have CI running on your platform. > - ios-deploy is borked. Shaz is investigating. > - Still using FruitStrap. Recently updated to use lldb (as of Xcode 5), > and that part of the problem. > - Xcode can deploy as long as we make your app into a unit test. Sounds > crazy.. but worth investigating? > - appium from selenium guys as an alternative? > - emulators only atm, but they promise devices? > - iOS and android only > - Also supports user actions like button presses. > - New MobileSpec: > - jasmine-2 launched! > - Last year at face2face a bunch of people contributed > - cdvtest branch on various plugins and cordova-labs repo > - No manual tests support yet, working on that in near future > > Plugin Repo > - Nodejitsu just lost most plugins :( > - iris couch? > - Do we migrate to host anywhere else? > - Apache server to host ourselves? > - Set up our own couch db as replication > - Migrating to cloudant? > - Steven has been working on redesign of the website! > - Angular for fronted! Topcoat! Flexbox Grid, mobile first! > - Missing Search, downloads > - Demo time! > - Repo, issue tracker links integrated > - Getting Started instructions going to be improved so we can run it > locally > - Steven will walk you through if you want to pitch in! > - Its a couch app! Will run inside the DB. Run on the same server as > cordova.apache.org? > - <resource-file> tag available for iOS but not Android, wth? > - Someone already patched this! > - Joe used to use <source-file> for this, why did we need a new tag? > Anyway.. we are using it now. > > iOS > - Not much going on, Shaz triaged for 3.4 release > - New features like multitasking support for ios7 in the pipeline > - keyboard / status bar plugin most of the work recently > - CLI run command big deal > - Apple: new guidelines for app store for Feb 1st > - Xcode 5 is now required. > - Do we want to support arm64? (yes..?) > - Remove support for iOS5? (yes..? but IBM will still test it for a while) > - JIRA Bugreport to move to using Xcode workspaces.. > - no one has any experience here > > Android > - Security vulnerability with whitelists > - Need to respond to the guys who found the vulnerability and handle the > situation > - Blogpost to our users > - Publish better guidance overall, as per earlier conversation > - Camera plugin > - Not working on KK :( > - Bug where File picker is returning a file URL which it (webview?) > cannot consume > - Andrew wants to investigate and poke Android team > - Fix the issue with a MAJOR version bump of plugin which is not > compatible. > - See how crazy users consider that. > - Useful to have a plugin website that supports multiple versions > - KitKat issues: > - Key Events > - Canvas is slow, software mode, bad viewport tags can make it a lot > worse than it is > - KK WebView is not up-dateable yet, but they are working on it. > - CrossWalk has an up-dateable webview > - Instantiating CordovaWebView not from main Activity, but manually after > some delay for whatever reason? > - Bunch of talk on this.. There are patches that begin to address this.. > Will put up for review. Sounds good. > > Windows Phone > - No issues > - Next Release: > - Currently no way to load binary assets (DLL plugins etc). Jesse plans > to support this > - Adobe folk getting WP8 devices, lumia 520 > > BlackBerry > - All Good. > > FireFoxOS > - No one here for F2F > - Pulling in support for plugins > > Ubuntu > - Active, working towards success. > > 3.4 Release > - rc out this week > - npm issues! > - What do we do? Publish under a different name? > - cordova-cli (and titanium, lol) pushed on a bad day and we have a bad > profile now, Isaac needs to manually fix this > - Brian to poke him > - npm.. is going through interesting times > > ApacheCon > - Audience is quite enterprise. Expensive. > - "HadoopCon" > - Apache recognizes that Cordova and Couch are breathing new life into > Apache > > Next Big Thing: > - Switching WebView's (specifically Android) > - CrossWalk, FireOS, GeckoView... > - App Harness > - MORE on CLI tools, not nearly done here > - Make it easier to be "correct" and end-to-end > - platform / plugins as artifacts, for real > - Even more sharing / compatibility between downstream wrappers (cca, > phonegap, work light) > - Plugins Website up > - Browser as a platform > - Guidance on app design > - Alloy, based on angular, just for cordova > - Web Components? > - Yeoman > > (Last note: CLI template command on BB vs copy-from and link-to) >
