No, thats great, I just didn't see it.  Thanks!

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Steven Gill <[email protected]> wrote:

> I added it as support under development in quicklinks. I can move it if you
> feel that is more appropriate.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Michal Mocny <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Steven, thanks for the change.  Would you mind also adding SO to the list
> > of quick links under General?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Steven Gill <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This is complete now. Let me know if you guy see any other stuff I
> should
> > > change.
> > >
> > > I didn't see a reference to the phonegap irc channel on the site.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Michal Mocny <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Fantastic, thanks Steven.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gill <[email protected]
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I was just creating an issue and was about to do it :P
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Michal Mocny <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Okay okay, so who is going to update the website?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think having a user@ can be created, but in practice no
> value
> > > add
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. users will not use it (for various reasons already mentioned
> > in
> > > > this
> > > > > > > thread)
> > > > > > > 2. committers and subject matter experts will not use it to
> > answer
> > > > > > > questions (if they do, just to copy paste a template "use jira
> or
> > > > SO")
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the problem is that we don't trust SO to be there tomorrow
> and
> > > go
> > > > > > > offline, then lets implement an archive that backups all
> > questions
> > > > and
> > > > > > > answers tag with "cordova" and for that matter also backup the
> > > > phonegap
> > > > > > > google group :-).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IMHO I think SO and google groups are reliable ecosystems and
> > they
> > > > will
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > go down tomorrow, and if they are not around in 50 years that's
> > > fine
> > > > if
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > least they are around for 6 months which is I think how long
> > people
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > current issues and problems that are relevant to this project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Joe Bowser <
> [email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Shane Curcuru <
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > (not subscribed to list)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Terrence brings up a critical point about how the Apache
> Way
> > > > works:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I knew that the "Apache Way" would be mentioned.  Every time
> we
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > to do something that makes no sense, hurts or users, it's
> > because
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > "The Apache Way"!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The fact is that our users are not technically adept and I
> > doubt
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > they could find a Cordova users list, and that if they found
> > > such a
> > > > > > > > users list, most of them would eventually be stuck on that
> list
> > > > > > > > forever because they wouldn't know how to unsubscribe from
> that
> > > > list.
> > > > > > > > Also, searching for anything on the archives of the Apache
> > lists
> > > is
> > > > > > > > extremely painful, and the only times I've seen that happen
> is
> > > when
> > > > > > > > malicious Apache members want to go and smear the crap out of
> > the
> > > > > > > > project finding every time I've bashed the ASF and "the
> Apache
> > > > Way".
> > > > > > > > I think most of our users will get frustrated by markmail and
> > > will
> > > > > > > > either ask the same thing over and over again, even though
> it's
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > docs or just leave.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Can we for once actually think of our users and not how to
> mess
> > > > them
> > > > > > > > over with "The Apache Way"?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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