Would jumping to 4.x mean we have to re-tag restart the vote process? 
Traditionally, Cordova has had major version bump close to Phonegap day - If we 
continue this to be 3.7.0, will we have another release close to Phonegap day, 
calling that 4.0 ? 

-----Original Message-----
From: brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
LeRoux
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 12:58 PM
To: Steven Gill
Cc: Shazron; dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Independent platform release summary

I'm down with jumping to 4.x but not convinced a jump to 5.x would actually 
spur more understanding. (Also thanks for tackling this Steve.)

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not opposed to a big version jump. It would draw attention to the 
> fact that we are changing our versioning & releasing process. How do 
> others feel?
>
> -Steve
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Steve for writing that up.
> > I can definitely see the confusion in messaging, especially at the 
> > start of this new process.
> >
> > So for "2) CLI + Lib version" I am proposing a radical idea (à la 
> > Windows
> > 10) where we jump to a new version totally separate from the current 
> > 3.x series to further detach the association of the CLI version with 
> > platform versions. Version 5.x? Not sure how sem-ver kosher it is.
> >
> > I already have one scenario. I sent out pull requests for docs and 
> > the
> CLI
> > for the new iPhone 6 icons and splash screens. These will be in the 
> > next iOS platform release 3.7.0, and if another platform didn't take 
> > 3.8.0 already, most likely CLI 3.8.0.
> >
> > This would mean the docs would be at 3.8.0, CLI at 3.8.0 but 
> > cordova-ios will be at 3.7.0. This is how the messaging will look 
> > like if I were to write a blog post:
> > "To get cordova-cli support for iPhone 6 splash screens and icons, 
> > please update to cordova-cli 3.8.0, which will grab the 3.7.0 
> > version of cordova-ios where this feature is implemented. Check out 
> > the 3.8.0 cordova-docs for usage". A bit clunky.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Steven Gill 
> > <stevengil...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hey All,
> >>
> >> I wanted to give summary of where I believe this process is going 
> >> and answer any questions you all might have. None of this is set in 
> >> stone,
> so
> >> please provide feedback so we can iron this out.
> >>
> >> 1) Platforms can now release independently
> >>
> >> If iOS wants to release 3.7.0, it doesn't have to wait for other
> platforms
> >> to be ready to release. Just run through
> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-coho/blob/master/docs/platforms-rele
> ase-process.md
> >> and do a tools release.
> >>
> >> 2) CLI + Lib version will rise very quickly.
> >>
> >> Right now, CLI is about to be released at version 3.7.0. No 
> >> platforms
> are
> >> currently at version 3.7.0. Say iOS wants to release 3.7.0 next 
> >> week,
> they
> >> could do that, update the CLI to version 3.8.0. I suggest a 
> >> platform
> being
> >> released would cause the CLI to do a minor release 
> >> (MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH -> 3.8.0). But this is obviously open to discussion.
> >>
> >> 3) Docs
> >>
> >> Docs version will now be tied to CLI. If we do a major or minor 
> >> release
> of
> >> the CLI, docs should be regenerated to match the version of the 
> >> CLI. Say iOS 3.7.0 requires the newest version of the CLI, we can 
> >> make note of
> that
> >> in docs + blog post. Maybe we list the platform versions associated 
> >> to
> CLI
> >> somewhere in the docs?
> >>
> >> 4) Helping users debug
> >>
> >> Cordova.version & cordova.platformVersion will both return the 
> >> version
> of
> >> the platform, not the cli. Users can easily tell you what version 
> >> of cordova-platform they are using by doing this. Generated 
> >> cordova.js
> files
> >> in projects will also have this information at the top of the file 
> >> along with commit hash.
> >>
> >> 5) Messaging
> >>
> >> We need to be clear about this in our messaging to users. This is a
> change
> >> from how we have been doing things and I foresee some confusion at 
> >> the beginning. Moving platforms over to package.json eventually 
> >> will help users see that platforms are independent, but we need to 
> >> do more now to help users adapt to this change.
> >>
> >> They need to know to expect the CLI version to jump quickly, and to 
> >> know that platform versions != cordova-cli version.
> >>
> >> Blog posts can list platforms cli was tested with, similarly to how 
> >> we list what plugin versions the cli was tested with when 
> >> releasing. (see the bottom of 
> >> http://cordova.apache.org/announcements/2014/09/22/cordova-361.html 
> >> for an
> >> example)
> >>
> >> Hopefully I didn't leave out anything major. Feedback please!
> >>
> >
> >
>

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