Brian, I think node-webkit is a durable platform, it has a long roadmap either with node 0.12 already planned.
Moreover, it's a simple platform since it implements a lot of Cordova features natively and node integration will make the work simpler than many platforms like Symbian :). I think we do not need more than three persons to maintain this project. I will make some tries in my repositories based on the report I made. Based on this, we can estimate how hard it would be to implement and maintain this platform. I will let you know about my progress during the coming week. -------------------------------- Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co -----Message d'origine----- De : brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] De la part de Brian LeRoux Envoyé : samedi 18 octobre 2014 22:30 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : RE: Adding node-webkit as a platform I echo the (classic) maintainer fear of abandonment (remember Symbian? Me either) ...but if ppl want to step up and own the platform this will be very well received. There is a low cost to finding out. So let's see where this goes. On Oct 18, 2014 12:10 PM, "Maxime LUCE" <max...@touchify.co> wrote: > I'm really happy I'm not the only one to want this great platform > integrated into cordova. > If enough of us can be involved, we will be able to carry out this project. > > Since you asked me to not wait to start my research. > Here are the results of my first analysis : > > Firstly our work will be simplified by three things : > - We can reuse a lot of code from Browser platform. > - Chromium implement many features natively, we only have to align > these with our specs. > - We have access to nodejs which is really easy to use and can perform > a lot of tasks. > > Below, I will detail the work to be done by repository. > > # Work on cordova-js : > - exec: same as Browser platform > - platform: we should isolate nodejs's require function > -- window.nodeRequire = window.require; > -- window.require = null; > > # Work on cordova-lib / cordova (cordova-cli) : > - parser: We can reuse browser_parser.js > We have to create node-webkit specific package.json > using update_from_config function > - platforms: Just add the platform into platforms.js > > # Work on cordova-lib / plugman (plugman) : > - platforms: Same as browser > > # Work on node-webkit platform > - We can start using the cordova-browser platform > - template: replace manifest.webapp by package.json > - scripts: > - clean: no changes > - version: no changes > - run: run nw using www folder as startup path > - build: zip www folder to app.nw > - create: copy template dir > download node-webkit binaries based on platform and > node-version > - update: copy cordova-js > download new node-webkit binaries > - check_reqs: node-version >= 0.10 > > Now I will details work to be done on plugins : > > # Battery-Status > We can use the node-battery module ( > https://github.com/leon-vv/node-battery) > > # Camera > We can use native function getUserMedia > > # Console > No need as Chromium console is already great ! > > # Contacts > VCARD parser ? > > # Device > Platform: navigator.platform > Model: "node-webkit / " + win32|mac|linux + (x64) > Version: > https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Get-version-of-node-webkit-in-app > Cordova: browser.cordovaVersion > Uuid: Stored in DOM Storage > > # Accelerometer / Compass > http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/device/orientation/ > > # Dialogs > Custom Solution : HTML5 / Design adapted on each platforms ? > Beep: https://github.com/feross/beepbeep > > # FileSystem > Two choices : > - Use native FileSystem API implemented in Chromium > - Use node fs module > > # File Transfer > - Use node request module > > # Geolocation > Already implemented in Chromium > > # Globalization > Use navigator + custom solution > > # InAppBrowser > https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Mini-browser-in-iframe > > # Media > HTML 5 Audio / Video Wrapper > > # Media Capture > We can use native function getUserMedia > > # Network Information > Same as Browser implementation > > # Splash screen > Custom solution using : > https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/Window#openurl-options > > # Vibration > Already implemented natively > > # Status Bar > Can be used to control toolbar visibility. > But don't think there is a real need since toolbar need a specific > implementation. > > Wow ! > I think it's a good global view to understand the work to be done to > implement node-webkit into cordova. > > Let me know your thoughts. > > Thanks ! > -------------------------------- > Maxime LUCE > Touchify - CEO > +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce > max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Tommy Williams [mailto:to...@devgeeks.org] Envoyé : samedi 18 > octobre 2014 04:22 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding > node-webkit as a platform > > Might be able to help with this. > > We are pretty invested in Node-Webkit. > On 18 Oct 2014 13:00, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote: > > > +1 to swarm dev ... That is our (not only) advantage being at Apache > > On Oct 17, 2014 6:33 PM, "Jesse" <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > No, don't wait for me ... swarm. > > > > > > @purplecabbage > > > risingj.com > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Maxime LUCE <max...@touchify.co> > wrote: > > > > > > > Ok I wait for your report to start my researches. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxime LUCE > > > > Touchify, CEO > > > > > > > > +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce > > > > max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > > De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 > > > > octobre 2014 03:06 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding > > > > node-webkit as a platform > > > > > > > > Yeah, I think it would be awesome if we could decouple > > > > cordova-cli and cordova-plugman from each and every platform, > > > > but given the recent > > > > version+pinning discussions, this may be hard to get through. > > > > > > > > I will play try to play with it a bit (over the weekend) and > > > > report > > back. > > > > > > > > @purplecabbage > > > > risingj.com > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Maxime LUCE > > > > <max...@touchify.co> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I understand your thoughts... > > > > > The main problem if we create a separate platform is that we > > > > > can't > > add > > > > > support for plugins (or I don't know how ?). > > > > > > > > > > We could try to simplify the process to work with custom > > > > > platform outside the main distribution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxime LUCE > > > > > Touchify, CEO > > > > > > > > > > +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce > > > > > max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > > > De : Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Envoyé : samedi 18 > > octobre > > > > > 2014 02:43 À : dev@cordova.apache.org Objet : Re: Adding > > > > > node-webkit as a platform > > > > > > > > > > official? > > > > > If you want to do it, or anyone else does, then they should go > > > > > for > > it. > > > > > Here's my random thoughts ... > > > > > I think it would be awesome, but we currently all appear to > > > > > have way more work than we can accomplish. The issue list in > > > > > JIRA is out of control, and we seem to be losing ground. > > > > > What happened to 'sugar' as a platform? Their pull requests > > > > > are sitting and waiting ... [1] Tizen [2][3] ?? > > > > > Browser as a platform took months, and is only finally in, > > > > > although > > no > > > > > one knows about it. > > > > > Adding a platform currently affects cordova-lib/cli/js + > > > > > plugman > > > > > + every core plugin ... having more platforms may not be > > > > > + better, > > > > > especially if they aren't maintained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/98 > > > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/47 > > > > > [3] https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @purplecabbage > > > > > risingj.com > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dick Van den Brink < > > > > > d_vandenbr...@outlook.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Would be awesome, I created this myself using CefClient > > > > > > (without > > > > > > cordova-plugins) and for Windows only. Official support with > > > > > > node-webkit would be a cool idea! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Verzonden met Windows Mail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Van: Maxime LUCE > > > > > > Verzonden: zaterdag 18 oktober 2014 01:32 > > > > > > Aan: dev@cordova.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to start again a debate about adding node-webkit as a > > > > > > platform for cordova. > > > > > > It will allow developers to target Windows (Desktop), Mac OS > > > > > > X and > > > > Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > It could also be a way to debug complex applications without > > > > > > any simulators. > > > > > > > > > > > > I really want to target this platform and for now I need to > > > > > > create > > a > > > > > > separate project. > > > > > > Having all my applications in the same project (Cordova) > > > > > > would be a great productivity improvement. > > > > > > I think I'm not the only cordova users who want to target > > > > > > Destkop platforms. > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think ? > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- Maxime LUCE Touchify - CEO > > > > > > +33 6 28 60 72 34 | skype: maximeluce > > > > > > max...@touchify.co | http://touchify.co > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >
