I sort of agree with Raymond that is a useful functionality and is easy enough to do this for users - by using a 'convention'. Customizing the build system using hooks sounds more complicated for the developer. How does ionic & mfp actually achieve this? How does a developer specify specific versions of files that need to be included only on certain platforms.
-Nikhil -----Original Message----- From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:18 PM To: dev@cordova.apache.org Subject: Re: Merges as a feature Well finding it in the docs is/was. This functionality is depended on by Visual Studio TACO so I don't think it is going anywhere soon. My team is hiring! @purplecabbage https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c7f9065b097754dab6e3608d2b31b4271%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=LaeCiYKqEmUrtyvFWibxgtMPzi52MfNI5rJHHotD0sc%3d On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah I don't think documentation is a problem. :) > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Merges doc is here: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fcordo > va.apache.org%2fdocs%2fen%2fedge%2fguide_cli_index.md.html%23The%2520C > ommand-Line%2520Interface_using_merges_to_customize_each_platform&data > =01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c7f9065b097754dab6e3608d2b31b4271 > %7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=%2f2FhMxoCI4p5BF1l22FIPv > Wt3jA0%2fECQfsW9iIAmpbA%3d > > > > > > - Carlos > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:53 PM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I would like to get rid of merges, now that you bring it up. > >> We have far too many nuanced features that just sort of go undoc'd. > >> > >> I may change my mind if someone can point me at a page in the docs > >> that explains the full use and value of this feature because > >> currently it > just > >> sounds like technical debt. > >> > >> > >> My team is hiring! > >> @purplecabbage > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data > >> =01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c7f9065b097754dab6e3608d2b31b4 > >> 271%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=LaeCiYKqEmUrtyvFWi > >> bxgtMPzi52MfNI5rJHHotD0sc%3d > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Raymond Camden > >> <raymondcam...@gmail.com > > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Oh sorry - well - I brought it up in an issue report for Ionic. > >>> They've got a few different ways of handling this, and I thought > >>> it might make sense to mention the Cordova Merges feature too. I > >>> was asked if it was possibly going away, hence me asking the > >>> Powers that Be here. (Wait, I think I'm one of those Powers...) > >>> > >>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Carlos Santana > >>> <csantan...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> Ok I agree for simple use case is very simple to drop files in merges. > >>> Which is the use case for visual studio template. > >>>> > >>>> Just curious on why an open ended question? > >>>> > >>>> It will be the same as me asking "Is hooks as a Feature going away?" > >>> With not other context. > >>>> > >>>> What prompted you to ask a the random question? > >>>> > >>>> Did someone told you that merges is going away? > >>>> > >>>> - Carlos > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Raymond Camden > >>>>> <raymondcam...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Ok, so now we're off my initial question and into a debate. :) > >>>>> > >>>>> I think you are absolutely right - there are more powerful > >>>>> solutions > - > >>>>> but that doesn't negate the ease of use of merges. The > >>>>> simplicity of it may be just fine for many use cases. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Carlos Santana < > csantan...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>> If people wants achieve to do what merges do, I recommend hooks > >>>>>> or > >>> custom build process (i.e. npm scripts, gulp, grunt, ant, perl, > >>> ruby, > etc) > >>> or running custom build from hooks. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There is more flexibility and control thru hooks than merges. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - Carlos > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Raymond Camden < > raymondcam...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> K good enough for me. I don't agree with you. ;) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Carlos Santana < > csantan...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> In my personal opinion it's not a best practice anymore to > >>>>>>>> use > >>> merges. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The feature works today if you create a folder "merges" > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> cordova create doesn't create it by default It will not go > >>>>>>>> away, visual studio leverages the "merges" folder > in > >>> their cordova templates. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> It will not be remove or deprecated, and at the same time > >>>>>>>> will not > >>> be highlighted as a main Cordova "F"eature > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - Carlos > >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Raymond Camden < > raymondcam...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That's not what I'm asking though. What I'm asking is - as a > >>> "Feature" > >>>>>>>>> (capital F ;) of Cordova, is it something that is going away? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Carlos Santana < > >>> csantan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> For mfp cordova it's not needed, there are modern ways of > >>> achieving this. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> In cordova you can use hooks and merges More advance users > >>>>>>>>>> can use their build tooling like grunt, gulp, > >>> etc. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> - Carlos > >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Raymond Camden < > >>> raymondcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Just a quick question - is merges as a feature going away? > >>>>>>>>>>> I > >>> haven't > >>>>>>>>>>> seen anything about that here, but just checking. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>> > ====================================================================== > ===== > >>>>>>>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate 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