I’m new here, and I don’t know how these meetings usually work, but I thought
it might make sense to structure the sessions around questions instead of
smaller topics. This way, we can get a more open discussion going and talk
about these topics within a larger context.
Some of the questions I would be interested in discussing are:
- How can we improve the development experience?
- What can we learn from the React Native developer experience?
- Replacing 'white screen of death' with an error reporting screen
- Adding a development/debugger menu
- How can we make platform installation easier?
- Improve requirements checking and error messages
- Install SDKs with one command (TACO)
- How can we improve the plugin ecosystem?
- Plugin dependencies and version constraints
- Validated platforms and plugins (TACO)
- Improving native dependencies (CocoaPods for iOS?)
- What can we learn from the React Native plugin API?
- How can we better support hybrid apps?
- Is the distinction between the CLI vs. platform-centered workflow still
valid?
- What is needed to allow customizing native (Xcode/Gradle/...) projects when
using the CLI?
- Can we share tools or plugins with React Native?
- What do integrators need from Cordova?
- PlatformApi refactoring
- Standardized logging and error/progress reporting
> On 03 Oct 2015, at 00:11, Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Joe updated the Agenda with topics, I added more topics.
>
> I put my name on all of them, at this time is just proposals.
>
> Please add more as you think is appropriate
>
> https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/blob/master/proposals/Face2Face-Oct15.md
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:50 PM Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> @Joe - I think we should do that too. I think we do need to do that
>> session. At the moment, there are 2 time slots when we could have
>> "breakout" sessions, I think this could be on the first day. Can you update
>> the agenda with this as a breakout session please ?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 1:47 PM
>> To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Cordova Face to Face Meeting
>>
>> Is it possible to have PMC/Committer only sessions? There's some stuff
>> that I want to make sure we cover w.r.t. how to deal with Apache Security
>> policy, but I'm pretty sure if you're not a PMC/Committer, it'd have almost
>> no value to anyone else unless they're really into the fine details of how
>> the sausage gets made and how we get screen out the sausage links that
>> contain nasty bits.
>>
>> Also, we should probably have a Cordova workflow discussion, since I'm
>> getting the impression that a lot of people don't even know how to work on
>> Cordova itself, or that we do it all differently.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Homer, Tony <tony.ho...@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think this would be a great way to spur discussion about shared
>> concerns.
>>> It would be great if we could identify some opportunities to make
>>> changes that would be beneficial for downstream distributors.
>>>
>>> I can certainly provide a quick survey of what we do in Intel XDK.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On 10/2/15, 4:36 PM, "Nikhil Khandelwal" <nikhi...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 to Martijn/Carlos mentioned. Please send PRs to the agenda
>>>> +document
>>>> here with your thoughts and agenda items
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithu
>>> b.com%2fcordova%2fcordova-discuss%2fblob%2fmaster%2fproposals%2fFace2F
>>> ace&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c701024943b444795468008d2
>>> cb6aad06%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=h%2f0meNJdvsJsQL
>>> %2fvzZyBfHk55DkGyNIPBDYFPe7PjLM%3d
>>>> -https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Oct15.md&data=01%
>>>> 7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c701024943b444795468008d2cb6aad06%7c
>>>> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=0x%2fzxTYkXewiHGP22O24exkD
>>>> Bex6Mbkc628eXHOLvTI%3d#topics-for-breakout-sessions-and-people-intere
>>>> sted-in-it
>>>>
>>>> I will do the same by the beginning of next week.
>>>>
>>>> -Nikhil
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Parashuram N [mailto:panar...@microsoft.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 1:14 PM
>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>> Subject: RE: Cordova Face to Face Meeting
>>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> Here is another topic I thought I would propose for the Cordova face
>>>> to face meeting. Apart from working on Cordova, most of us also use
>>>> Cordova to build tools for our IDEs, or build applications with
>>>> Cordova. I thought this would also be an interesting place to see
>>>> demos of how people are using Cordova in their tools of applications.
>>>> For example, I would like to see how Cordova is used in things like
>>>> Intel XDK, Phonegap desktop, Worklight, etc. This would also help us
>>>> understand how the changes we make in Cordova impacts our customers.
>>>>
>>>> What do you guys think ? Would you folks want to talk about how you
>>>> are using Cordova in your products and applications, and would like
>>>> to demo that in 10-15 minutes ?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantan...@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2015 12:30 PM
>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Cordova Face to Face Meeting
>>>>
>>>> I changed the google password apachecordova...@gmail.com it's stored
>>>> in svn, the new password is "passw0rd" :-) I was not able to login,
>>>> and when I did it asked me to change the password because of
>>>> suspicious activity
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 1:23 PM Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Please do! Definitely interested
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Carlos Santana
>>>>> <csantan...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi who can give me super powers for
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgi
>>>>> thu
>>>>> b.com%2fcordova%2fcordova-discuss%2fblob%2fmaster%2fproposals%2fFac
>>>>> e2F
>>>>> ace-Oct15.md&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7caa57b093f091
>>>>> 4c7
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>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to create a table of topics and +1 column, and link to a
>>>>>> github issue so conversation can happen before and during f2f to
>>>>>> capture ideas there, also to give a chance to anyone in the open
>>>>>> to comment on the
>>>>> github
>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have topics that interested me, but want to want to know if
>>>>>> there are others that are interested on same topic, or a way that
>>>>>> different topics are about the same area or problem. Also to
>>>>>> allow folks from other
>>>>> projects
>>>>>> to add topics "React Native + Cordova", "ES2105 + Cordova", "X +
>>>>> Cordova"
>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also this is not a request for work, is more into there are folks
>>>>>> interested on maintaining components, I think we get a lot of can
>>>>>> cordova do x, I want to see hey I think cordova can do y to
>>>>>> better fit with x and will be willing to contribute and maintain
>>>>>> it :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:26 AM Martijn Walraven <
>>>>>> martijnwalra...@meteor.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I¹m not sure what people have in mind for the agenda, but one
>>>>>>> topic I¹d
>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> interested in discussing is what we could learn from React Native.
>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>>> aside the issue of web technologies vs. native for now, I think
>>>>>>> React Native contains some interesting innovations in terms of
>>>>>>> developer experience (error reporting, debugger menu, etc.) and
>>>>>>> plugin
>>>>> architecture
>>>>>>> (asynchronous batched bridge, threading model, ability to pass
>>>>> functions,
>>>>>>> sending events, etc.). There may even be ways for the two
>>>>>>> projects to
>>>>>> work
>>>>>>> together, share tooling, plugins, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If people are interested, I could prepare a short presentation
>>>>>>> about
>>>>> some
>>>>>>> of these ideas as a starting point for discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martijn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 30 Sep 2015, at 22:50, Parashuram N
>>>>>>>> <panar...@microsoft.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are some more details about the location of the meeting.
>>>>>>>> I will
>>>>>>> also be sending around a reminder as we get closer, so that
>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>> has
>>>>>>> the address.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Meeting location
>>>>>>>> Microsoft Building 33. Room Name - Rainier Address : Building
>>>>>>>> 33, 16070 NE 36th Way, Redmond, WA 98052
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Send me an email if you have trouble finding the location.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com <mailto:
>>>>>>> purplecabb...@gmail.com>]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org <mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cordova Face to Face Meeting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 for breakfast in the clouds
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My team is hiring!
>>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Parashuram N <
>>>>> panar...@microsoft.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:panar...@microsoft.com>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just created a form to get an idea of the people who will
>>>>>>>>> be attending the meeting -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fdo
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>>>>>>>>> Will help plan the capacity of the venue and other logistics.
>>>>>>>>> Please do fill it in if you have planned your travel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you have not planned your travel, what are you waiting
>>>>>>>>> for -
>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> are a lot of good cordova folks who will be at the meeting,
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>> do come over !! :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions about how to get here,
>>>>>>>>> recommendations for hotels or things to do while you are
>>>>>>>>> here in the great pacific northwest, drop in an email, or
>>>>>>>>> discuss on
>>>>> slack !!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantan...@gmail.com <mailto:
>>>>>>> csantan...@gmail.com>]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:52 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org <mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cordova Face to Face Meeting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ryan we can have sunny side eggs in the cloud room.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can bring bagels
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking forward :-)
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:38 AM Ryan J. Salva
>>>>>>>>> <rsa...@microsoft.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:rsa...@microsoft.com>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carlos,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We'd be happy to put our heads in the cloud with you ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we can schedule "breakfast in the cloud room" as an
>>>>>>>>>> early morning event dedicated to these scenarios.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Ryan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from
>>>>>>>>>> Outlook<
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2
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>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _____________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: Carlos Santana
>>>>>>>>>> <csantan...@gmail.com <mailto:csantan...@gmail.com><mailto:
>>>>>>> csantan...@gmail.com <mailto:csantan...@gmail.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:17 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cordova Face to Face Meeting
>>>>>>>>>> To: <dev@cordova.apache.org <mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>> dev@cordova.apache.org <mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Invitation is open to anyone that want to discuss the
>>>>>>>>>> enterprise/cloud topics, sorry just used Intel and MS as an
>>>>> example,
>>>>>>>>>> I don't recall if someone from Intel is attending
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:14 PM Carlos Santana
>>>>>>>>>> <csantan...@gmail.com <mailto:csantan...@gmail.com> <mailto:
>>>>>>> csantan...@gmail.com <mailto:csantan...@gmail.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> nevermind, it looks we are going to build the agenda when
>>>>>>>>>>> we get
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But I have a question. Since I'm traveling there I would
>>>>>>>>>>> like to maximize my time, Can we start earlier than 10am?
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't mind getting there at
>>>>>>>>>> 8am
>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe if someone would like to meet earlier, I would
>>>>>>>>>>> like to talk to folks from Intel, MS, about enterprise and
>>>>>>>>>>> cloud services topics that
>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>> be boring to some :-( but would like to shared ideas,
>>>>>>>>>>> concerns, security, authenticity, encryption, point of
>>>>>>>>>>> view on how can we be better
>>>>>>>>>> downstreams
>>>>>>>>>>> or maybe share we are doing in IBM to be more open and
>>>>>>>>>>> flexible with
>>>>>>>>>> Cordova
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:07 PM Carlos Santana
>>>>>>>>>>> <csantan...@gmail.com <mailto:csantan...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:csantan...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:csantan...@gmail.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK I booked my fight and hotel, and no one will guess who
>>>>>>>>>>>> decide to come with me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have topics I want to discuss but I don't care what day
>>>>>>>>>>>> or time we discuss. I will put in agenda and feel free to
>>>>>>>>>>>> re-arrange I have one item that I don't know if its a
>>>>>>>>>>>> topic or not, but it's around cleaning the house, kind of
>>>>>>>>>>>> a war room time, I would like to go thru
>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin repo and address every PR, in a boxed time (i.e.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~1
>>>>>>>>>>>> hour)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 6:23 PM Parashuram N
>>>>>>>>>>>> <panar...@microsoft.com <mailto:panar...@microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:panar...@microsoft.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:panar...@microsoft.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am creating a Google spreadsheet to start collecting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> names of folks who plan to attend the event. Was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning to start doing it closer to
>>>>>>>>>> Oct
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 so that people have finalized their travel plans. Will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> send out a
>>>>>>>>>> link
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Shazron [mailto:shaz...@gmail.com <mailto:
>>>>> shaz...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:23 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>> dev@cordova.apache.org <mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cordova Face to Face Meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Parash, where is this secret registration to have the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance to win store vouchers?? :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Parashuram N
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <panar...@microsoft.com <mailto:panar...@microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:panar...@microsoft.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:panar...@microsoft.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The meeting will take place in Microsoft Main Campus -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mostly in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> building 33. There are a number of hotels in an around
>>>>> Redmond.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can even pick hotels in Belleve downtown or Redmond
>>>>>>>>>>>>> downtown
>>>>>>>>> (closer) .
>>>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are Microsoft offices nearby from where you can get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shuttle to where
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> meeting happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will also start a registration to get a count of all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the folks who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be coming.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S: A pixie told me a secret that people who register
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a remote chance to get Microsoft company store
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vouchers :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Simon MacDonald [mailto:simon.macdon...@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>> simon.macdon...@gmail.com>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 10:13 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>> dev@cordova.apache.org <mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cordova Face to Face Meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations Carlos and Edna, I know how difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that must have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> been.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Most Adobians are staying at the Silver Cloud Inn, 2122
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 152nd
>>>>>>>>>> Avenue<x-apple-data-detectors://20
>>>>>>>>>> <x-apple-data-detectors://20>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Northeast, Redmond, WA 98052<x-apple-data-detectors://21
>>>>>>> <x-apple-data-detectors://21>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>>>> shuttle to MS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, created #f2f channel on Cordova Slack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon Mac Donald
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Carlos Santana
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <csantan...@gmail.com <mailto:csantan...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>> csantan...@gmail.com <mailto:csantan...@gmail.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi finally the Magical Goblins from finance send a
>>>>> telegram.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce that two IBMers got approved to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attend, me and Edna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I need more info to book our travel. Where are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks staying what's the address, do we need a car or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you guys have
>>>>>>> Uber?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What you all think if I create a #F2F Slack channel to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask more of
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stupid questions and kind organize those attending?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:28 PM Parashuram N <
>>>>>>>>>> panar...@microsoft.com <mailto:panar...@microsoft.com
>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>> panar...@microsoft.com <mailto:panar...@microsoft.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are only a month away from the Cordova Face to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Face meeting on Oct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 15th !! This is a friendly reminder to make your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel arrangements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Redmond, WA, USA. I will send out the exact address
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Redmond in
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up email.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that this meet up is open to anyone who is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in making the Cordova project better,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> builds tools on top of Apache Cordova, or simply has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas/issues with the
>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> tentative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agenda for the meeting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am also working to see if I can set up a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live-stream or at least a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> call for majority of this meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Action Item: I think we should seed the meeting with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of the topics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would like to discuss at the meeting, so I request
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to either respond
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this email with potential topics you would like to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss, or
>>>>>>>>>> edit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the agenda directly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some topics we could discuss are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Documentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Continuous Integration and how folks can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Platform specific discussions - Android, iOS, etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Identifying Main pain points for Cordova users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - <Add your topic here>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> dev-h...@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>>>>>>>>> dev-h...@cordova.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>> dev-h...@cordova.apache.org>
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