I meant it's an opt-in, it's off by default in cordova-lib CLI will tell lib to turn on collection, other CLIs can choose to collect or not to collect and tell Lib
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:01 PM Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Problem with collecting from lib is how do you show notice to users to opt > out? If we build that notice into lib, imagine how confusing that might be > for PhoneGap/Taco/Mobilefirst users to see a message about cordova wanting > to collect data. > > I think we should only introduce it to CLI if we do. > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Yep, no collection on app just tools. > > And also be careful on what we collect on tooling also, there might > things > > we might not want to collect. (cli commands might have sensitive data) we > > just need to collect some of it in a anonymous way. > > > > Also some environment info also is useful (node version, jdk version, os > > type, xcode version, android sdk version, etc..) > > > > I think collecting from cordova-lib might be good. Will be good to know > > what is the ratio between cli vs. api users, but at the same time that we > > can get from npm downloads lib vs. cli > > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:17 AM Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > We would collect data from cli use, not in app. > > > > > > cli and lib versions, plugins used, cli commands used, platforms used > and > > > versions, etc > > > > > > NOTHING should be added to the app a developer installs on the emulator > > or > > > device. > > > > > > Ideally this is all done in the cli directly so other tools can still > > > consume cordova-lib without being tracked. > > > > > > > On Nov 4, 2015, at 12:03 AM, Tammo Schimanski < > > > tammo.schiman...@cordova.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think the same, this could be very useful. But we have to think > about > > > the things terence already mentioned. These are three very big points > for > > > data collection and they have to be 100% clear before we get started > with > > > this. I think that we don’t need to collect user identifiable > > information, > > > or have i overlooked something? > > > > > > > > Data that could be collected: > > > > > > > > - Cellphone manufacturer > > > > - Display Size / Resolution > > > > - OS with Version > > > > - Used Browser-Engine with Version > > > > > > > > To the point „would it be optional“: For who should it be optional? > For > > > „us“, the developers, or for the users who are using the application? > In > > my > > > opinion this has to be optional because not everyone is able to > > understand > > > what he is doing. If we activate this by default and someone develops > an > > > application but is missing the legal part inside his data protection > > > regulation, he can get big problems with the german law as far as i > > > understood the whole thing correct. > > > > > > > > +1 for this! :-) > > > >> Am 03.11.2015 um 20:42 schrieb Terence M. Bandoian < > tere...@tmbsw.com > > >: > > > >> > > > >> Could be useful. What exactly would be collected? Would it be > > > optional? Any user identifiable information? > > > >> > > > >> -Terence Bandoian > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> On 11/3/2015 2:31 AM, julio cesar sanchez wrote: > > > >>> I think it's a good idea to add it and it will help understand how > > > people > > > >>> use cordova and find common problems that they might have > > > >>> > > > >>> 2015-11-02 23:13 GMT+01:00 Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Hey folks, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> One of the action items from the face to face meeting was about > > > adding the > > > >>>> ability to the Cordova CLI to collect telemetry data. Folks said > > that > > > they > > > >>>> were not sure if Apache had any policies against it. I checked > with > > > >>>> legal-disc...@apache.org<mailto:legal-disc...@apache.org> (and > > > included > > > >>>> the PMC in the mail) and looks like they don't have any policies > for > > > or > > > >>>> against it. > > > >>>> In terms of prior art, Looks like the Apache Flex project is > already > > > >>>> collecting limited telemetry, and CloudStack folks are thinking > > about > > > it. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Now that we know that Apache is not totally against collecting > > > telemetry > > > >>>> data, what do you guys think about it? Are there folks in the > > > community who > > > >>>> are totally against adding any kind of telemetry to Cordova ? If > > yes, > > > can > > > >>>> we discuss those concerns in this thread ? > > > >>>> Also, are there folks who think this is a good idea ? If yes, > please > > > raise > > > >>>> those points too. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
