Created an issue to track this https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-12914
Simon Mac Donald http://simonmacdonald.com On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Simon MacDonald <simon.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote: > Right so we still with dropping JB for now. Support API levels 19-26 for > Cordova-Android 7.0.0 > > Simon Mac Donald > http://simonmacdonald.com > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The problem is that Kitkat is still 18.1% of the current devices out >> there, >> which includes all the failed experiment devices that Google had released. >> That would be dropping a lot of things by the wayside. >> >> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Simon MacDonald < >> simon.macdon...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >> > +1 from me as well. >> > >> > If we can move to Android 5.0 (API 21) and later that would be a huge >> win >> > as all of those devices can use the Android System WebView >> > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com. >> > google.android.webview&hl=en> >> > which >> > gives us a more consistent target. >> > >> > Simon Mac Donald >> > http://simonmacdonald.com >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Kerri Shotts <kerrisho...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > +1 >> > > >> > > >> > > ~ Kerri >> > > >> > > > On Jun 12, 2017, at 13:22, Trevor Brindle <tabrin...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > +1 makes sense to me. Ensuring testability and not making heroic >> > measures >> > > > to continue support an old OS is a good reason to me. >> > > > >> > > > TrevorBrindle >> > > > Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer >> > > > SHOP•COM powered by marketamerica >> > > > C: (407) 450-8700 >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> +1 >> > > >> >> > > >> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:38 AM, julio cesar sanchez < >> > > >> jcesarmob...@gmail.com >> > > >>> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >>> Currently, Jellybean is 8.8%, so it's bellow the 10%. We can drop >> it. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> 2017-06-12 17:22 GMT+02:00 Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com>: >> > > >>> >> > > >>>> Reviving this thread! Sorry for the late reply. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Regarding Trevor's question: >> > > >>>>> Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by >> > dropping >> > > >>>>> official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can >> drop >> > > >> after >> > > >>>>> this? >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> From a testing/CI perspective, it becomes much more tenable to >> keep >> > up >> > > >>>> with pull requests and ensure changes are validated on the >> platforms >> > > >>>> we support. We currently leverage Sauce Labs to run tests on >> > emulators >> > > >>>> on Android, and Sauce dropped support for all Android versions >> up to >> > > >>>> and including 4.3 [1]. So, from a selfish perspective, as a >> cordova >> > > >>>> dev, dropping 4.3 and below support makes _my_ life easier as I >> > don't >> > > >>>> have to manually test on earlier versions of Android. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Not sure if there are other, less-selfish reasons? Ping Simon + >> Joe. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Also, instead of letting this thread die a quiet death, may I >> > suggest >> > > >>>> that whatever decision is made here, we file as issues and chalk >> up >> > > >>>> for the next cordova-android major release? >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> [1] https://wiki.saucelabs.com/display/DOCS/2017/03/30/EOL+ >> > > >>>> for+Android+4.0%2C+4.1%2C+4.2%2C+and+4.3+Automated+Mobile+ >> > App+Testing >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Trevor Brindle < >> > tabrin...@gmail.com> >> > > >>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>> I don't think it is unreasonable to drop support for an OS that >> had >> > > >> its >> > > >>>>> first release in July of 2012 (4.1 is almost 5 years old), >> > especially >> > > >>>>> considering the Cordova support policy for iOS. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Realistically, I think it's hard to justify support for before >> 4.4. >> > > >>> Less >> > > >>>>> than 10% of our customers are on 4.4 or earlier as a whole, and >> > less >> > > >>> than >> > > >>>>> 10% of them actually use our apps regularly. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Just for consideration however, what do we actually gain by >> > dropping >> > > >>>>> official support? Are there compat libraries or tests we can >> drop >> > > >> after >> > > >>>>> this? >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM Simon MacDonald < >> > > >>>> simon.macdon...@gmail.com> >> > > >>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> I would happily drop support for anything less than API level >> 19 in >> > > >> the >> > > >>>>> next cordova-android major release. >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Simon Mac Donald >> > > >>>>> http://simonmacdonald.com >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Filip Maj <maj....@gmail.com> >> > > >> wrote: >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>>> As much as I personally would like to do so, I wonder what the >> > > >>>>>> reaction among consumers of cordova would be. >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Jesse < >> purplecabb...@gmail.com> >> > > >>> wrote: >> > > >>>>>>> +1 >> > > >>>>>>> Our CI tests only test as far back as 4.4, so maybe I thought >> we >> > > >>> were >> > > >>>>>>> already there. >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> @purplecabbage >> > > >>>>>>> risingj.com >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Joe Bowser < >> bows...@gmail.com> >> > > >>>> wrote: >> > > >>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> Hey >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> Even though everything appears to be working on Jellybean, I >> > > >> know a >> > > >>>> lot >> > > >>>>>> of >> > > >>>>>>>> people have been wanting to throw it to the wayside. >> Normally, >> > > >> for >> > > >>>> us >> > > >>>>>> to >> > > >>>>>>>> drop support for a platform, we have to wait unitl it goes >> below >> > > >>> 10%, >> > > >>>>>> but >> > > >>>>>>>> since Jellybean consists of three different API versions, and >> > > >> since >> > > >>>> two >> > > >>>>>> of >> > > >>>>>>>> those are below the 5% mark, I'm tempted to just toss it by >> the >> > > >>>> wayside >> > > >>>>>> and >> > > >>>>>>>> set the minimum supported version of Android to 4.4.x, or API >> > > >> level >> > > >>>> 19. >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> How do people feel about that. I know in the past, people >> were >> > > >>> super >> > > >>>>>>>> passionate about supporting everything, but given that my >> > Android >> > > >>> 4.1 >> > > >>>>>>>> device is an old Nitobi device obtained before we even became >> > > >>> Adobe, >> > > >>>>>> and it >> > > >>>>>>>> took five tries to get it to cooperate with adb, I'm really >> > > >>> starting >> > > >>>> to >> > > >>>>>>>> think it's time we dropped Jellybean. >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> Thoughts? >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>>>> Joe >> > > >>>>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > >> --------- >> > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >> > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> -- >> > > >>>>> TrevorBrindle >> > > >>>>> Lead Hybrid Mobile Engineer >> > > >>>>> SHOP•COM powered by marketamerica >> > > >>>>> C: (407) 450-8700 >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> > --------- >> > > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org >> > > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >
