> I wouldn't point to a fork, because that will mean we have to search for
> the forks and decide which one is better. Also in case we want to do that,
> we should do it before archiving. If a better fork appears after archiving
> we won't be able to change.
>
> I think best option is to point to network tab of github (in case people
is
> not aware of it). There you can see all forks available and easily spot
> extra commits people has done in an easy and visually way.

Sorry if that was not clear, this is exactly what I meant. The standard
deprecation notice text should include a general link to /network of the
repo with some appropriate language and explanation how to look for forks.


2018-08-08 12:23 GMT+02:00 julio cesar sanchez <jcesarmob...@gmail.com>:

> I wouldn't point to a fork, because that will mean we have to search for
> the forks and decide which one is better. Also in case we want to do that,
> we should do it before archiving. If a better fork appears after archiving
> we won't be able to change.
>
> I think best option is to point to network tab of github (in case people is
> not aware of it). There you can see all forks available and easily spot
> extra commits people has done in an easy and visually way.
> Example for contacts plugin
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugin-contacts/network
> You can see there is a fork from timholbrook that added 22 commits from
> latest release, and then this fork has a few other forks itself with some
> other extra commits.
>
> El mié., 8 ago. 2018 a las 12:15, Shazron (<shaz...@gmail.com>) escribió:
>
> > Let's make it formal with what we had in the repo, perhaps a new page
> > or section in the docs somewhere.
> > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 6:09 PM Jan Piotrowski <piotrow...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Please note that this part of the discussion with me playing devil's
> > > advocate - I pretty much agree with what you are saying.
> > >
> > > Is there any way users can find out about new forks of deprecated
> > > repos? Fork network view on Github maybe? Then adding a link to that
> > > in the deprecation notice would be a nice move.
> > >
> > > Any other comments regarding a possible "Cordova Deprecation Policy"
> > > than what Julio already wrote?
> > >
> > > -J
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-08-08 11:52 GMT+02:00 julio cesar sanchez <jcesarmob...@gmail.com
> >:
> > > > This is the deprecation policy from cordova-plugin-contacts
> > > >
> > > > Deprecation Notice
> > > > This plugin is being deprecated. No more work will be done on this
> > plugin
> > > > by the Cordova development community. You can continue to use this
> > plugin
> > > > and it should work as-is in the future but any more arising issues
> > will not
> > > > be fixed by the Cordova community.
> > > >
> > > > All the deprecated repos have a similar deprecation notice.
> > > >
> > > > Other than that, I don't think we have something more official.
> Also, I
> > > > don't know were/if that message was discussed.
> > > >
> > > > What I said on my previous message is my interpretation of "work",
> for
> > me
> > > > what I said is work, not sure if everybody agrees on that, and it's
> not
> > > > official, just my opinion. Also my opinion of Cordova Community is
> > > > everybody who wants to contribute, not just the committers.
> > > >
> > > > We have dozens of repos and hundreds of open PRs that we aren't able
> to
> > > > manage, so keeping the deprecated repos open for issues/PRs in case
> > > > somebody want to fix something will just bring frustration to those
> > people
> > > > as their PRs won't be reviewed/merged. And if we plan on continuing
> > > > reviewing/merging on deprecated repos, why did we deprecate them on
> the
> > > > first place?
> > > >
> > > > El mié., 8 ago. 2018 a las 11:26, Jan Piotrowski (<
> > piotrow...@gmail.com>)
> > > > escribió:
> > > >
> > > >> Great, then this seems to be Cordova's deprecation policy. Write it
> > > >> down, publish it, link to it from the deprecated projects so users
> > > >> know about it - problem solved.
> > > >>
> > > >> Just to be on the safe side: Was this previously discussed and
> > decided?
> > > >>
> > > >> -J
> > > >>
> > > >> 2018-08-08 10:49 GMT+02:00 julio cesar sanchez <
> > jcesarmob...@gmail.com>:
> > > >> > No, when we deprecate something it means no more work will be done
> > on it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Triaging issues, reviewing and merging other people prs and
> > continuing
> > > >> > doing releases it’s work. We aren’t supposed to do anything else
> > when we
> > > >> > deprecate.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > People can freely create and maintain a fork, but it won’t be
> > official
> > > >> and
> > > >> > won’t live in the Apache repo.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > El miércoles, 8 de agosto de 2018, Jan Piotrowski <
> > piotrow...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > escribió:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Let me play devil's advocate:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Archiving means disabling everything - issues, PRs, etc.
> > > >> >> Don't we want to let people create PRs with bug fixes or changes
> > (we
> > > >> >> may or may not choose to merge) for other people to benefit from?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> -J
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 2018-08-08 3:40 GMT+02:00 Gearóid M <d...@gearoid.me>:
> > > >> >> > +1 on archiving deprecated repos, it's an easy way to make it
> > very
> > > >> clear
> > > >> >> that it is no longer maintained
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > On Wed, 8 Aug 2018, at 01:37, Chris Brody wrote:
> > > >> >> >> +1
> > > >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 11:32 AM julio cesar sanchez
> > > >> >> >> <jcesarmob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Archived repos are read only.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > People can still clone and/or fork them, they just can't
> send
> > PRs
> > > >> or
> > > >> >> create
> > > >> >> >> > new issues.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > I'm +1 on archiving them.
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > El mar., 7 ago. 2018 a las 17:25, <raphine...@gmail.com>
> > escribió:
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > > I suggest archiving them all and deal with any issues as
> > they
> > > >> >> appear. After
> > > >> >> >> > > all, repos can be unarchived if necessary.
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > > Chris Brody <chris.br...@gmail.com> schrieb am Di., 7.
> Aug.
> > > >> 2018,
> > > >> >> 17:16:
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> >> >> > > > Continuation of discussion from
> > > >> >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> >> > >
> > > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/affbc74f0ff4d34bc09657c3c302e1
> > > >> >> 85cc98b946d260184847fdf191@%3Cdev.cordova.apache.org%3E
> > > >> >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> >> > > > I think it is not desired to actively support deprecated
> > > >> repos. I
> > > >> >> >> > > > think the easiest solution is to simply make those repos
> > > >> archived.
> > > >> >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> >> > > > But what if there are people still using the deprecated
> > repos
> > > >> who
> > > >> >> are
> > > >> >> >> > > > motivated to take them over?
> > > >> >> >> > > >
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