To be honest I didn't expect the vote to end so fast especially with the notice "Voting will go on for a minimum of 48 hours." in the vote thread itself. If this was expressed as a duration of 24 hours and expressed as an emergency (I know it was implied, but for some rules are rules), I think we would have been fine with that -- but the vote did say 48 hours.On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 11:35 PM Shazron <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jesse sums up what I would have said. We all agreed on the 48 hours > (somewhere way back), especially with our project with 60+ repos where > we were changing rapidly (not so much now of course), and 72 hours was > too late for a release. > > 48 seems to be a good midpoint for the rule to include people from all > geographic timezones. 72 hours would have been OK if we only had to do > one release, like the http server project (that was the genesis of the > foundation itself..) > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 11:21 PM Jesse <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > These are guidelines. We make our own rules. The important part is that we > > make sure we are inclusive of people all around the planet. > > > > A hotfix is a different situation, we need to get it out fast and since it > > is not a significant change, a quick window should be fine. > > > > > [1] ... Votes should generally be permitted to run for at least 72 hours > > > to provide an opportunity for all concerned persons to participate > > > regardless of their geographic locations. ... > > > > ‘Generally’! > > We shortened this for releases at some point, there is probably a vote > > thread back there somewhere. > > > > Note that 72 hours still applies to votes nominating new pmc/committers. > > > > Going deeper, I see a trend where we question process and rules. I find > > this to be a distraction from the actual work. I am of the mind that we are > > all trustworthy, able to constructively and openly discuss things and this > > formality can be a barrier to moving forwards. Maybe newer committers need > > clearer guidelines and I have just been around too long to be objective, > > that is a possibility too. > > > > Cheers, > > Jesse > > > > [1] > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/votinhttps://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#ReleaseVotesg.html#ReleaseVotes > > > > > > > On Sep 28, 2018, at 1:56 AM, julio cesar sanchez <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > This is being discussed in slack and github > > > <https://github.com/apache/cordova-coho/issues/202>, but I think it > > > belongs > > > to the mail list. > > > > > > There is a discrepancy in the duration of the votes. > > > > > > Apache states that: > > > Release votes SHOULD remain open for at least 72 hours. > > > > > > But in coho vote templates we have: > > > Voting will go on for a minimum of 48 hours. > > > > > > Also both of them say "at least" or "a minimum", but not sure if sometimes > > > there can be exceptions to speed things up.
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