+1 to Niklas suggestion :)

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> On 2. May 2020, at 6:54 PM, Niklas Merz <niklasm...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> We could try to enforce this setting with .asf.yml. I saw this posted on 
> another list.
> 
> See: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/.asf.yaml+features+for+git+repositories#id-.asf.yamlfeaturesforgitrepositories-Mergebuttons
> 
> Should we roll this out to all repos?
> 
> May 2, 2020 1:38 PM, "julio cesar sanchez" <jcesarmob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Just a reminder that we agreed on using the squash and merge, but I still
>> see regular merge commits in a few repos from time to time.
>> 
>>> El El sáb, 5 oct 2019 a las 19:32, gandhi rajan <gandhiraja...@gmail.com>
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>> + 1 for squash and merge as it makes the repo history cleaner.
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 8:34 PM <raphine...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 for "Squash and merge" as the default strategy
>>> 
>>> Regarding "Create a merge commit":
>>> At times, I find this option valuable too. Consider a PR that cleans up a
>>> test suite. As part of that cleanup I might re-order the test cases. As
>>> re-ordering produces a noisy diff, I usually isolate it in its own
>>> commit.
>>> I would not want to merge this commit with the others as that would lead
>>> to
>>> a commit with a very incomprehensible diff. So in this case I would favor
>>> leaving the commits separate and doing an actual merge to group them
>>> together in the global history.
>>> 
>>> Am Fr., 4. Okt. 2019 um 17:03 Uhr schrieb julio cesar sanchez <
>>> jcesarmob...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>>> Sorry if it wasn't clear, I said I was leaving the protecting master
>>> branch
>>>> out of the vote.
>>>> 
>>>> Looks like we all agree on using "Squash and merge" as default, unless
>>> it
>>>> makes more sense to use one of the other options.
>>>> 
>>>> El jue., 3 oct. 2019 a las 3:43, Bryan Ellis (<er...@apache.org>)
>>>> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>> -1 for protected master branches.
>>>>> Protecting a branch is a great idea except it does not work with our
>>>>> current workflow process. COHO commits directly onto the master
>>> branch
>>>> for
>>>>> releases. We would have to spend more time planning and changing our
>>>> entire
>>>>> current workflow process to eliminate direct commits if we wanted to
>>>>> protect branches. There is alternative such keeping master open for
>>>> direct
>>>>> commits and development while creating a protected "production"
>>> branch.
>>>>> Anyways this part of the discussion is off-topic and could be another
>>>>> discussion... Anyways, stated above I am downvoting protected
>>> branches
>>>> for
>>>>> now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 for "Squash and merge"
>>>>> Makes a nice single commit with the PR number and without the extra
>>> merge
>>>>> commit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 for "Rebase and merge"
>>>>> There are use cases where this can work perfectly.
>>>>> For example, Cordova-Electron has a `draft-2.0.0` branch which is
>>>> targeting
>>>>> the next major release. Major PRs were merged into that branch with
>>>> "Squash
>>>>> and merge". This means all PRs have nice PR# information in the
>>> title.
>>>>> A PR will later be created to merge this branch onto master. "Rebase
>>> and
>>>>> merge" will be used and will not create the merge commit message and
>>> will
>>>>> not squash.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -1 for "Create a merge commit"
>>>>> Not in favor of the extra merge commit. I think in most cases one PR
>>>> should
>>>>> focus on one task so that means it could be squashed when there are
>>>>> multiple commits. If "Create a merge commit" is used, each commit
>>> will
>>> be
>>>>> merged and does not contain the PR# in the title. When creating
>>> release
>>>>> notes, I need to manually review those commits to identify what PR it
>>>> came
>>>>> from to include the PR linking. Some times, depending on if they are
>>> all
>>>>> related commits, I need to manually group them and create a
>>> meaningful
>>>>> title for the release notes which I would prefer to have been done
>>>>> beforehand.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:51 AM Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> -1 for protected master branches, we are a small group of
>>> committers
>>>> and
>>>>>> don't need rules to keep us honest.
>>>>>> Protecting master would involve infra, as we cannot manage the
>>> minutia
>>>> in
>>>>>> github. I think we all do this anyway except for rare occasions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1 for squash and merge, as long as the meaningful individual
>>> commit
>>>>>> messages get consolidated into the 1 commit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 8:36 AM Norman Breau <
>>> nor...@normanbreau.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 to protect the master branch.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Forcing PR will help organize commits if we need to go back in
>>>>>>> time to determine the reason why a change was made as the
>>>>>>> commit in github will show the corresponding PR. Which will
>>>>>>> (hopefully) be properly filled out with context and motivation,
>>>>>>> as well as the issues that the PR resolves.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 for "squash + merge" as a default strategy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I feel like most of the time having all the individual commits
>>> that
>>>>>>> makes up a PR is not really necessary. Most of the time it's
>>>>>>> bloated with tweaks fixing errors that was introduced during the
>>>>>>> development of the PR or perhaps refactoring for code style, etc.
>>>>>>> If there are instances where squash shouldn't be used, that can
>>>>>>> be decided on a per-case basis in my opinion.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2019-10-01 10:37 a.m., Chris Brody wrote:
>>>>>>>> I would agree that "squash + merge" should be used in *most*
>>> cases,
>>>>>>>> and I think there is no dispute on this point.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In the few cases where there are too many things for a "squash
>>> +
>>>>>>>> merge" commit, and we have the changes down to a limited number
>>> of
>>>>>>>> clean, sensible commits, then I would favor merging with a
>>> merge
>>>>>>>> commit that shows the PR number.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My issue with "rebase and merge" is that the commit history
>>> would
>>>> not
>>>>>>>> show the PR number.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I think that having the commits show the PR number would make
>>> it
>>> a
>>>>>>>> little easier for whoever makes the release to make the release
>>>> notes
>>>>>>>> with the PR numbers.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are there any recent examples of "a lot of commits from the
>>> same
>>>> PR
>>>>>>>> with meaningless commit messages when changes were requested"?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe off-topic: I wonder if we should look for multiple
>>> committers
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> approve an external contribution before merging?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 7:18 AM julio cesar sanchez
>>>>>>>> <jcesarmob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Last year, Jan started a thread with different topics and one
>>> of
>>>>> them
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> to have a merge convention. I copy the text:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Merge Conventions / Protected Branch:
>>>>>>>>>> Connected to all that is my suggestion to protect the
>>> `master`
>>>>> branch
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> that by default nobody can commit there - all changes have to
>>> be
>>>>> made
>>>>>>> via
>>>>>>>>> Pull Requests. Pull Requests are by default merged via the
>>>> "Squash +
>>>>>>> Merge"
>>>>>>>>> button / functionality so that all commits are squashed into
>>> one
>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>>> commit per change. This also enforces the commit message
>>>> structure I
>>>>>>> posted
>>>>>>>>> above. (Of course committers can choose to _not_ use Squash +
>>>> Merge
>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> appropriate for the PR - e.g. when cherry picking commits
>>> from a
>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>> branch or similar).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think about this suggestion?
>>>>>>>>> Looks like we didn't agree on anything, but can we agree now?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've checked a few repos and some of them have a lot of
>>> commits
>>>> from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same PR with meaningless commit messages when changes were
>>>>> requested,
>>>>>>> plus
>>>>>>>>> the ugly "merge PR ### from YYY" that makes the commit history
>>>> hard
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> follow and hard to cherry pick if needed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Since I'm not sure if we can protect branches, I'll focus only
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> merge
>>>>>>>>> convention.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Can we all agree on using the "squash + merge" for user PRs,
>>>> unless
>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> think the different commits makes sense, in this case we
>>> should
>>>> try
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> "rebase and merge" button.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I vote +1
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Gandhi
>>> 
>>> "The best way to find urself is to lose urself in the service of others
>>> !!!"
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