I don't think preferences for Visual Studio are all that clearcut.  There is 
much to like about the Visual Studio IDE and how it works in a code and test 
and fix and repeat cycle of activity.  But that is only when building for 
Windows on Windows.

We have to be careful about two things:

 1. Many Visual Studio users have never been taught any other way to build 
code, even though there is full support for makefile usage, command-line 
building, and also growing cross-platform support in Visual Studio.

 2. Open source projects that treat Windows as an appendage case are very 
inaccessible to Windows developers because of the Fibber McGee's Closet tooling 
that seems to be some sort of normal for getting something to build along with 
considerable investment in custom scripts (using from M4 to Perl to Python and 
almost anything else).

So there is the way that VS is appealing to Windows developers as grounded in 
what they know, but there is also some need to recognize how repellant many 
open-source projects appear to developers who, know it or not, are relying on a 
consistent structure for which complexity is noticed only when the need arises.

Now our challenge is, I assume, multi-platform development using a common core 
source code along with whatever the adaptation mechanism is for different 
targets.  So we have to be more ecumenical in how the code can be approached by 
developers with different interests.

I think it is unlikely that we can make the compilable parts of Corinthia look 
like a Visual Studio solution consisting of one or more Visual C projects 
(compilation steps) and tests to the point where a Visual Studio developer can 
ignore all else.  I'm not even clear that it is a good idea.

Just a concern I have,

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: jan i [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 09:22
To: [email protected]; Dennis Hamilton
Subject: Re: Anybody who know how to write .cmd or .bat files for windows ?

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- Products like Cygwin, have scared AOO developers, so I dont want we
depend on such products, do we agree on this ?
  (Windows developers in general only like visual studio, and maybe a
couple of external libs)
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