On 7 January 2015 at 18:49, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
> I just got a spam-bounce of this message returned to me. I am sending it > from a different e-mail to see if it gets through. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 09:30 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: svn commit: r1649986 - /incubator/corinthia/www/index.html > > I need to make something clear here. > > For me, this is an open-source project. > > On open-source projects at Apache at least, contributors contribute where > they are moved to contribute and for whatever satisfaction they find in > what they are doing. > +1, but it also typically that contributors contribute in areas the are confident about....I know you have a huge experience we all could benefit from. We just need to find out what you to contribute with. If f.x. you want to help work on the 64bit windows system, I will be glad to help you with the cmake files, so you can concentrate on finding the application errors. I see peter has sent you the link to Foundation, if that is what you want to work on. I think my problem is, that I dont know, what you would really like to work on > > I am left with the impression that others have ideas about where I should > be finding that. But that's not my agenda (even if I knew what my agenda > were), that's someone else's agenda. > "that" being ? I totally agree with you, we are all doing volunteer work, so it needs to be fun. May I bother you, to come with a couple of specific ideas, what would make fun for you ? I think it is better than peter an I guessing. I am very willing to work together with on issues we both like, and I am sure so are all of the community. The problem might come because you are very productive, and sometimes attack an area, without making your intentions clear. > > I don't doubt that Peter has an eye on a variety of research topics and > also some approaches that he is aware of (e.g., in parser construction) > that he wants to try out. That's fine. I may or may not be intrigued > enough to follow him down those paths. > > > It may be that projects are more mature than Corinthia when they tend to > come over to the ASF. I don't know. Or perhaps I just haven't studied the > code enough to understand that there is sufficient architectural structure > to follow, as in looking into the filter cases. I was starting at an even > lower level, something basic like how can any of this be compiled and > worked on using a Windows desktop platform. (So I am immediately up > against tacit knowledge requirements for CMake without getting to any of > the computer science stuff at all. That's the rank amateur level at which I > am arriving here.) > I think the real problem is more WE are building ourself a community....we need to give each other room, so we all can have fun, once we know each other better, this will not be a problem. > > You should consider me a complete noob with regard to this project. It > happens I have the kind of beginner's mind where I can turn what I learn as > a noob into advice for other noobs and maybe leave better bread crumbs for > those who follow. But noob I am. > +1 ....except I dont think for 1 second you are a noob, not anymore than we all are. We each have specific knowledge and the game is to make 1+1 = 4. rgds jan i. > > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Kelly [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 08:55 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: svn commit: r1649986 - /incubator/corinthia/www/index.html > > > On 7 Jan 2015, at 11:32 pm, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > +0 > > > > I'm not happy with this. I feel completely frustrated with any ability > to contribute considering that we have no way to know the rules for working > on the site, the wiki is terrible, and there is no compartmentalization > that works for where work is needed and what is actually stable about > stable. > > > > Also, I think Peter assumes too much about my knowledge of the code and > how it works. I have no working knowledge of the internals of AOO nor of > DocFormats. > > I’m very much aware this is a big problem at the moment. My #1 priority > regarding my involvement in the project is to make it easier for others to > get involved in actual development work - that includes documentation and > assistance with tasks, e.g. the ODF filter which I’ve just posted about on > the mailing list. Unfortunately my time is limited due to other work, but I > see this as an important issue that I need to be addressing to the extent > that I can. > > There’s a *ton* of fascinating problems to solve here, both development > and research :) I’d like us to get to the good stuff sooner rather than > later. I’ll be posting more on the list when I get time about some of the > design issues I’m aware of that I think we should discuss. An example is > how we can remove the need for explicit id mapping between concrete and > abstract documents by using a suitable diff algorithm to compute the set of > changes. It’s stuff like that which is the real meat of this project, > though unfortunately there is a rather steep learning curve. I hope we can > try and flatten that curve a bit. > > — > Dr Peter M. Kelly > [email protected] > > PGP key: http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key <http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key> > (fingerprint 5435 6718 59F0 DD1F BFA0 5E46 2523 BAA1 44AE 2966) > > > >
