Hi -

FWIW - I still have Confluence Admin rights left over from setting up AOO 
cwikis.

On Jan 18, 2015, at 8:45 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> 1. Replacing the Confluence Wiki
> 
> We know what wiki we would prefer (Wikimedia) but there are constraints on 
> supporting it that Corinthia is probably not equipped to satisfy.
> 
> With regard to the MoinMoin wiki that is also supported at ASF, the problem 
> seems to be one of responsiveness.  It has the advantage that one can prepare 
> text off line and one can rescue the wikiText form of content if ever needed.
> 
> My concern for the current wiki is it appears to be totally captive and 
> anything committed to it lies in that embrace forever.  (The export functions 
> are to limited forms and it is not clear they are a good way to produce 
> content while working off-line.)

I'll note that on the Tools dropdown there is a view storage format that gives 
a window to grab html.

There is also an Export to Word and PDF. These can be controlled with templates.

There is also a Source Editor if you want to fiddle with the HTML directly.

> 
> 2. Continuing to Use Confluence
> 
> Confluence authoring is apparently required to be in a browser (or via the 
> REST API, which is too much of a reach).  I would love to find out that is 
> not the case, but I have failed to determine what the plaintext form of text 
> submission is, and the help button is not useful in knowing otherwise. It 
> appears from the documentation that the canonical form of the content is XML 
> and can be used to backup and restore pages.  

You can put in html directly.

> 
> I guess this means proceed at your own risk.  
> 
> 3. Cutting the Knot?
> 
> So I started using the JIRA as a way to capture ideas and notes until there 
> is better understanding of Atlassian Confluence and the Gliffy Confluence 
> Plugin.

This plugin looks cool - I will need to play with it to see if this is a great 
advantage and if the results are exportable.

>  As far as I am concerned, Confluence is a CMS, it is highly captive and it 
> is not like any wiki I have ever seen.  
> 
> I think we should tilt to using the web site more and the wiki less.  

I tend to agree. We could use the wiki for working documents that we are 
collaboratively editing.

> 
> I do see that one can presumably use Confluence as a blog in some manner.  
> (Unfortunately they no longer except XML-RPC from blog authoring tools.)  
> That might be worth considering for simple content.

I am comfortable with whatever workflow works for you.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> - Dennis
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jan i [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 00:31
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: change if wiki ?
> 
> Hi
> 
> It seems the wiki discussion died out. Is somebody working on finding a
> replacement ?
> 
> If work is ongoing then that is fine, if not, I would say we have what we
> have let us live with it until we graduate.
> 
> My reason for asking is that I would like to correct the texts and make a
> preliminary, which of course will be discussed and corrected.
> 
> thoughts?
> 
> jan i
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
> 

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