On 14 August 2015 at 21:04, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
wrote:

> During many [VOTE]s, people often give a -1 (if thought critical) and
> state the conditions that will turn their vote into a +1.  That is one way
> the situation that Peter raises can be handled.
>
> Note that while a -1 on a release [VOTE] is not a veto, the idea is that
> -1 votes are taken seriously and addressed if possible.
>
that is not the real problem. The problem is when the -1 leads to a new
release candidate then people who are very keen on rules, could say it
invalidates all previous +1 (since they votes on a different candidate).

rgds
jan i.


>
>  - Dennis
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Kelly [mailto:pmke...@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 11:25
> To: dev@corinthia.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PRE-VOTE] Release candidate 0.1
>
> > On 15 Aug 2015, at 1:11 am, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > With regard to what release votes are supposed to reflect, pre-voting
> makes absolutely no sense to me.  The ballots cast should follow a critical
> review of the *specific* release candidate.
> >
> > I have said all I need to say about this.
>
> Maybe voting is not the best term to use for this period. The way I
> understood it was a chance to hammer out last minute issues (like the line
> ending problem I just mentioned) and once the all the issues I’ve found
> have been sorted out, I give my +1.
>
> Keep in mind that release candidates differ slightly from other things we
> normally vote on, because there’s sometimes obvious technical problems
> (code not compiling, tests failing) that are not controversial, and are a
> matter of fixing and issuing a new release candidate.
>
> If you have a suggestion for a less ambiguous term we could use so that
> individuals can express the notion that all the problems they have
> found/care about have now been fixed, I would be happy for us to change to
> using that term instead. What is the typical practice on other ASF projects?
>
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